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DSL Grunt Posts: 28 (4/21/03 10:03 pm) 213.67.7.228 Reply \| Edit \| Del All	3D Keen4 I'm planning to do a 3Dversion of Keen4. Anyone thinks that is an good idea? The thought about making a 3Dgame popped into my head a few days ago. So expect a 3d in the future. I think it will take a looong time... But it will be fun to do such a big project. Maby I will need some help with texturing and modeling. I can't do everything myself ya now. I use the 3Dgamestudio, so it's kinda cheating. Not the real deal though.
Xtraverse Stranded Fish Posts: 2044 (4/21/03 11:56 pm) 24.48.163.42 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: 3D Keen4 You.....have 3dGamesStudio??? Well, all I can say is good luck. You definately have the talents. BTW, can 3DGamesStudio do cartoon rendering for a game, or would that require far too much processor speed? And can it import .mb, .3ds, and .max?
BlueIllusionX Vortininja Posts: 208 (4/22/03 1:30 am) 209.82.28.39 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: 3D Keen4 did you buy 3dgame studio?? or did you get it from a site, if you did, u gotta tell me where you got it, i've been trying to get it for years. if you got the version that can build exes, id say hell make the game!
DSL Grunt Posts: 29 (4/22/03 5:08 am) 213.67.7.228 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: 3D Keen4 You know there is a program called Kazaa hint hint
Xtraverse Stranded Fish Posts: 2046 (4/22/03 11:25 am) 24.48.163.42 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: 3D Keen4 You mean Kazaa has stuff besides viruses?
KeenRush Garg Posts: 3182 (4/22/03 11:45 am) 212.246.17.130 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: 3D Keen4 Wow, the idea sounds great! Oh, and you really have talents, like Xtra said.. So.. Good luck! Greetings from Bloogton Tower!
DSL Grunt Posts: 31 (4/22/03 4:47 pm) 213.67.7.228 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: 3D Keen4 Yes, kazaa has many nicyspicy things.. Nuff said about kazaa. Is there anyone here who's good att 3dgamestudio's scriptlanguage or modeling 3dmodels? If so, don't be afraid to drop a line or two and we can plan some future cooperation eh? There are just two things I can't decide. Should Keen's skin be white or humancoloured? Should Keen's shirt be purple or red? If the game is going to be made, I will do everything I can to create an very atmospheric game, recreate that nostalgia-Keen-feeling and add some of my own composed music. In other words, I try my best not letting you oldskool-Keeners down! All levels will be my own 3dversions of the levels in Keen4. All the inhabitants of the Shadowlands will be modeled in 3d and the original story will be used... Phew, hope I can get started as soon as I'w got time. I'm pretty excited myself acctually
Djaser Holy Monk Yorp Posts: 1365 (4/22/03 5:55 pm) 212.92.76.33 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: 3D Keen4 *Quote:* There are just two things I can't decide. Should Keen's skin be white or humancoloured? Human-colouredn wit frangels if you ask me. *Quote:* Should Keen's shirt be purple or red? I would say red since your game won't be 16 colours (I hope ) -----Djaser est un nation prétendue neutre mais, dans la réalité, il ne l'est pas car il n'arrête pas d'être envahie par les uns et sauvés par les autres. Djaser est normalement régie par une féodalité...-----
revolutionbr Grunt Posts: 8 (4/22/03 7:22 pm) 200.140.80.30 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: 3D Keen4 what is 3dgamestudio? another deal is to use blender3d. Its a free program, but if u wanna learn to make games with with u can buy Blender Game kit, only 27,99$. Check at www.blender.org or .com Both works
DSL Vortininja Posts: 32 (4/22/03 8:14 pm) 213.67.7.228 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: 3D Keen4 hey, I use 3dgamestudio togheter with 3dstudiomax. what more can I ask for?
Xtraverse Stranded Fish Posts: 2048 (4/22/03 8:53 pm) 24.48.163.42 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: 3D Keen4 I've never tried blender, but I heard it was impossible to use. I use Maya and 3DSMax legally
DSL Vortininja Posts: 33 (4/22/03 10:01 pm) 213.67.7.228 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: 3D Keen4 That's right phokes. NEVER try to make money on -software
KeenRush Garg Posts: 3191 (4/23/03 2:42 pm) 212.246.17.130 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: 3D Keen4 Purple shirt and white skin.. Greetings from Bloogton Tower!
DSL Vortininja Posts: 34 (4/23/03 5:13 pm) 213.67.7.228 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: 3D Keen4 So we say white skin and purple shirt? I'm acctually consider to make him in da old colours... It's makes him more Keenish.
Scizor CT Council Janitor Posts: 431 (4/23/03 7:59 pm) 67.34.171.50 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: 3D Keen4 Purple shirt - Definitely. Skin - I'd actually prefer a flesh tone here. Just so it doesn't look pink. My Remixes: Here! Click here!
stickmanofdoom Grunt Posts: 4 (4/23/03 9:31 pm) 208.143.136.140 Reply \| Edit \| Del	re: 3D Keen4 i might be able to make some 3d models for you. i have rhino 3d but can save the models as a bunch of different kind of files , including 3ds max , i think.
DSL Vortininja Posts: 35 (4/23/03 10:56 pm) 213.67.7.228 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: re: 3D Keen4 Ok, thanx alot! Do you have any pix on the web somewhere? I'm thinking about making the models with high polycount, so maby slow cpus won't be able to run this game smooth. But first of all, I have to learn the gamemakingsoftware some before starting out seriously. Any kind of help is very much apreciated.
Xtraverse Stranded Fish Posts: 2056 (4/24/03 12:44 am) 24.48.163.42 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: re: 3D Keen4 I'm in the middle of designing Fribbulus Xax in 3D, but I might be able to help you out on some stuff. I own 3DSMax 3.1, and I have access to 3DSMax 5.1 as well as Maya 4.5 Unlimited at my school.
Yorparoony Vortininja Posts: 38 (4/24/03 4:06 am) 144.138.148.148 Reply \| Edit \| Del	what will be is it going to be exactly like keen 4 of weel you add new levels and items??
0 UNFLEEXABLE 0 Vorticon Elite Posts: 526 (4/24/03 5:40 am) 203.213.63.16 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: what will be Hey Xtraverse! Could you do me a favour? (I was gonna ask you to do this for me in episode 1 too but anyway) Could you please make me 3D images of... BASA Guard Post III *Bloogville I will use them in my animation and I will acknowledge you in the credits. -- Pinch, Pinch... BLIND, Clamp! --
KeenRush Garg Posts: 3198 (4/24/03 3:11 pm) 212.246.17.130 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: what will be Sounds cool Xtra, I thought you have forgot the XAX. Greetings from Bloogton Tower!
DSL Vortininja Posts: 39 (4/24/03 5:19 pm) 213.67.7.228 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: what will be If I add new things to the game? The levels won't be the same because it's hard to make a 3dplatform (like DukeManhattan) But the the monsters and textures will be there, maby I add some new monsters/levels.
stickmanofdoom Grunt Posts: 6 (4/24/03 7:41 pm) 208.143.136.154 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: what will be I have good news and bad news. the keen model is coming along well but i cant save files as 3d max files. i can save them as: IGES, wavefront, auto cad, 3d studio, lightwave, raw triangles, pov-ray mesh, moray mesh, STL, VRML, adobe illustrator, windows metafile, renderman, or Ag files. is this helpful? i have already made models of keens gun ( as seen in the keen 6 manuel ) and his pogo. you can see them in the cc314 fan art section. the pogo looks kinda weird so i will probably make a different one.
DSL Vortininja Posts: 40 (4/24/03 9:11 pm) 213.67.7.228 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: what will be Hey hey, easy here! I haven't started yet.. But if you got a nice model, I will use it!
pacdan729 Grunt Posts: 6 (4/26/03 2:48 am) 66.9.106.146 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: 3D Keen4 Sounds really cool. Definatly purple shirt and flesh tones.
revolutionbr Grunt Posts: 12 (4/26/03 6:17 pm) 200.140.80.151 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: 3D Keen4 if u need help to get textures i can help ya. And man, if you could make Keen4 in 3d and with the opitions to change cameras, man, maybe "the universe is toast" can be soon be a reality again. Let's all help you to make the game, like people made Counter-Strike, many people helping. And maybe, Tom Hall can make the last games! read this: "...I would love to do another Keen. My last idea for Keen 7-9 was a game world was 3D, and at certain places the camera rotated with you for different games. It was halfway between Super Mario 64 and Pandemonium. This was two years before those games came out. I wish I'd been in a place where I could've made that happen back then. I do miss the good ol' days of Keen. I love the universe and the gameplay, and I'd love to make another chapter in the saga. We will see how the future unfolds.." -Tom Hall "When Tom Hall was working here at Apogee, I used to pester him about Keen, because quite frankly, I was a customer of Apogee's before I started working here. I used to ask him a lot about what he had planned for Keen 7, and I remember him being really annoyed when Super Mario 64 came out, because Tom said that was exactly what he had planned for Keen 7 - he wanted to be first to market with that kind of game concept." -John Siegler You can read the full topic at http://www.3drealms.com/keenhistory/keenhistory2.html See, maybe we are all the chosen to start the last series...
Flaose Pooper, King of the Slugs Posts: 988 (4/26/03 7:57 pm) 68.147.124.200 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: 3D Keen4 It's Joe Siegler, not John... -------------------- Cerebral Cortex 314 - For All of your Commander Keen Needs.
stickmanofdoom Grunt Posts: 10 (4/26/03 8:59 pm) 208.143.136.175 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: 3D Keen4 i finished the keen model. he just has spheres as hands though. i have made hands before and they worked for their purpose but i dont think they would work with keen. im too lazy to figure out how to put the pictures up on the web so if somebody gives me their e-mail i'll send it to them.
DSL Vortininja Posts: 41 (4/26/03 9:09 pm) 213.67.7.228 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: 3D Keen4 Ok, send the pix to knoffe@swipnet.se And remember, this game will not be finished in a loong time. Maby not finished at all. (But I hope it will! ) But as soon as I need help with things I will drop a line here. I'm will also post screenshots during my work so you guys can see how it looks like.
DSL Vortininja Posts: 42 (4/27/03 2:34 pm) 213.67.7.228 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: 3D Keen4 My first model is Billy Blaze. Yet to be texturized
KeenRush Garg Posts: 3224 (4/27/03 2:46 pm) 212.246.17.130 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: 3D Keen4 Wow! Really nice!! Remeber the white skin etc., to make it perfect! It looks very keenish already! Greetings from Bloogton Tower!
DSL Vortininja Posts: 43 (4/27/03 2:49 pm) 213.67.7.228 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: 3D Keen4 Ok, I make two versions then. Human skin and white skin. We can make a poll about wich skin is the best
stickmanofdoom Grunt Posts: 11 (4/27/03 4:28 pm) 208.143.136.141 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: 3D Keen4 wow! my model sucks compared to yours! mabey you dont need my help . I'll send it to you anyways.
DSL Vortininja Posts: 45 (4/27/03 4:37 pm) 213.67.7.228 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: 3D Keen4 I needed help because I can't possibly make all the models my self. Btw, some models will not be that complicated. I will need models of palmtrees, rocks and so on... But thanx anyway, I need all help there is.
Xtraverse Stranded Fish Posts: 2072 (4/28/03 12:36 am) 24.48.163.42 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: 3D Keen4 Check out the post I made a while ago of the Shadowlands in 3D, (Other Keen Stuff). If you want anything in there, I could send it over. EDIT: Found it: pub128.ezboard.com/fpubli...=608.topic I also realize that I made some birds a while back, here: http://www.themikecam.com/gallery/galleries/models/bird.jpg different version here: http://www.themikecam.com/gallery/galleries/models/bird2.jpg My last Keen 4-related model was a berkeloid, which I can't find at the moment but I'll get it later. Edited by: Xtraverse at: 4/28/03 1:23:14 am
Forge315 Grand Intellect Posts: 1433 (4/28/03 2:51 am) 68.106.137.215 Reply \| Edit \| Del	. That is a pretty cool pic, Edited by: Forge315 at: 4/28/03 2:52:09 am
DSL Vortininja Posts: 46 (4/28/03 5:47 am) 213.67.7.228 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: 3D Keen4 Ok, remember guys, the models should not be larger than 800 polys and should be mapped with only one whole texture. So please use the boxmodeling technique. It's the best way to make a lowpolymodel. If someone here doesn't know what boxmodeling is, I will find a tutorial (for 3dsmax) wich show the whole proccess from modeling to skinning.
Killspy Vorticon Elite Posts: 531 (4/28/03 3:42 pm) 198.236.13.32 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Yes Indeed Xtraverse is really good at the modeling indeed! I did a few, the only one I thought was reeeaaallly good was my Sparky. I cant wait to play your game!
DSL Vortininja Posts: 48 (4/28/03 3:55 pm) 213.67.7.228 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: Yes Indeed One tutorial about boxmodeling: www.3dlinks.com/tutorials/max/max_tutorials.cfm?tutorial=lpindex One tutorial about mapping with the unwrapUVW modifier in Max. www.waylon-art.com/uvw_tutorial/uvwtut_01.html
DSL Vortininja Posts: 49 (4/28/03 5:55 pm) 213.67.7.228 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: Yes Indeed Texuring is finished (?) Tell me what you think. White skin didn't really fit in. He looked like a corpse or something. Not nice...
Grelphy Vortininja Posts: 262 (4/28/03 7:16 pm) 12.23.198.254 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: Yes Indeed His helmet looks a little big.
DSL Vortininja Posts: 50 (4/28/03 7:46 pm) 213.67.7.228 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: Yes Indeed Hmm, maby you are right
KeenCommander Vorticon Elite Posts: 651 (4/28/03 9:20 pm) 66.19.50.51 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: Yes Indeed Palm tree? Did somebody say Palm tree? My brother made this a while back in 3ds max.... (I never do anything in case nobody noticed )
DSL Vortininja Posts: 52 (4/28/03 10:01 pm) 213.67.7.228 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: Yes Indeed Oh, sorry, forgot to tell. That palmtree looks cool. Anybody know what polycount ?
Djaser Holy Monk Yorp Posts: 1393 (4/29/03 10:31 am) 212.92.76.33 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: 3D Keen4 *Quote:* His helmet looks a little big. That's just funny. Keep it big!!! But you make his nose a little bit bigger. And did you complete the shoes? -----Djaser est un nation prétendue neutre mais, dans la réalité, il ne l'est pas car il n'arrête pas d'être envahie par les uns et sauvés par les autres. Djaser est normalement régie par une féodalité...-----
KeenRush Garg Posts: 3231 (4/29/03 12:54 pm) 212.246.17.130 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: 3D Keen4 First of all: Wow! Looks really nice now! Oh, and I think the helmet should be a bit big - it is his big brothers one! And about that Keen skin colour - maybe you could make something option where player could select "Keen's skin colour" to "normal" or "white"? That could change the texture of the 3d model, and if that's not possible on fly, then you could just change the texture of the current model, and save it with different name.. Also, the palm tree is very nice - it remainds me of the one in Keen, and the ones I have in legos. No, I don't play with them anymore.. Though sometimes I would want to.. Greetings from Bloogton Tower!
Forge315 Grand Intellect Posts: 1436 (4/29/03 2:04 pm) 150.176.82.150 Reply \| Edit \| Del	. Great coloring job!
DSL Vortininja Posts: 53 (4/29/03 3:44 pm) 213.67.7.228 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: Yes Indeed The texturing could be improved alot. Add more leaf-feeling to the... that's right, leafs. Edited by: DSL at: 4/29/03 3:45:36 pm
Superadammario64 Vortininja Posts: 102 (4/29/03 9:10 pm) 24.43.217.7 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Cool! Wow thats a wicked looking Keen model.
revolutionbr Grunt Posts: 17 (4/29/03 10:19 pm) 200.140.5.214 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: 3D Keen4 really cool what program are u using to do it?
DSL Vortininja Posts: 55 (4/30/03 9:49 am) 212.3.20.142 Reply \| Edit \| Del	a I use 3dstudiomax for modeling and mapping. 3dgamestudio for making the game
revolutionbr Grunt Posts: 19 (4/30/03 5:23 pm) 200.140.5.10 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: 3D Keen4 did u boy 3d game studio???
KeenRush Garg Posts: 3243 (4/30/03 5:43 pm) 212.246.17.130 Reply \| Edit \| Del	!! Kazaa.. Greetings from Bloogton Tower!
DSL Vortininja Posts: 56 (4/30/03 8:21 pm) 213.67.7.228 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: 3D Keen4 Not exactly, i'w got it from Edonkeynetwork (I can't afford everything here in the world and as long as I don't make profit out of it, it's ok) Verywell, the Keenmodel is 99% textured. I'm really satisfied with his look. Alot more Keenish that previous version Also added his neural stunner!! Here comes da pic
Scizor CT Council Janitor Posts: 446 (4/30/03 10:02 pm) 67.34.169.243 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: !! Automated Response Machine: Scizor CT would like to tell you how incredible that looks, but his keyboard has just short-circuited due to excessive moisture. My Remixes: Here! Click here!
DSL Vortininja Posts: 57 (5/1/03 11:07 am) 213.67.7.228 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: 3D Keen4 Thank you. Still got skeletonrigging to do.. Prepare to see Keen in motion!
KeenRush Garg Posts: 3247 (5/1/03 12:47 pm) 212.246.17.130 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: !! Very nice again. Greetings from Bloogton Tower!
DSL Vortininja Posts: 58 (5/1/03 4:27 pm) 213.67.7.228 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: 3D Keen4 Made a little giffy out of him when he's running! http://www.geocities.com/whirloop/keenrun.gif Edited by: DSL at: 5/1/03 4:27:44 pm
Djaser Holy Monk Yorp Posts: 1406 (5/1/03 6:04 pm) 212.92.76.33 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: !! It Rocks -----Djaser est un nation prétendue neutre mais, dans la réalité, il ne l'est pas car il n'arrête pas d'être envahie par les uns et sauvés par les autres. Djaser est normalement régie par une féodalité...-----
stickmanofdoom Grunt Posts: 15 (5/1/03 10:37 pm) 208.143.136.181 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: 3D Keen4 that is so incredibly awsome!
Grelphy Vortininja Posts: 274 (5/1/03 10:39 pm) 12.23.198.254 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: 3D Keen4 Nice! Something doesn't look quite right about the stunner... I have no clue what, though. I think i'm gonna hafta build a time machine... I can't wait for this to be finished... You and all those other mental wimps deserve to die! -Mortimer Mcmire in Commander Keen 3
Scizor CT Council Janitor Posts: 447 (5/1/03 10:44 pm) 65.82.173.84 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: 3D Keen4 Nice animation, but he seems to be running while still upright, rather than being a bit bent over. My Remixes: Here! Click here!
Keengamer Commander Keen Mad Posts: 511 (5/2/03 4:04 am) 203.123.64.150 Reply \| Edit \| Del	3D Keen4 a 3d version of commander keen, would take away the classic spirit, go ahead DSL, but too many people won't be interested, i don't know if i will be
DSL Vortininja Posts: 59 (5/2/03 1:37 pm) 213.67.7.228 Reply \| Edit \| Del	hey Hey dude, can't you see that's the whole challange with this project! I'm doing this cause I want to show my apreciation to ID and all the Keengames. I'm a huge fan of Keen and I know what to do to bring the Keen atmosphere into the game. If I succed, who knows... I will do my best, I promise!
Djaser Holy Monk Yorp Posts: 1415 (5/2/03 2:27 pm) 212.92.76.33 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: 3D Keen4 *Quote:* a 3d version of commander keen, would take away the classic spirit, go ahead DSL, but too many people won't be interested, i don't know if i will be WTF why would it? Tom Hall even wanted to make a 3d Keen game. And the publishers of Rayman suceeded in making a good 3d game of the old platform version. Much people will be interested. DSL you have done a good job so far I'd love to see more. Are You btf going to make a remake of the original Keen games or an entire new episode. -----Djaser est un nation prétendue neutre mais, dans la réalité, il ne l'est pas car il n'arrête pas d'être envahie par les uns et sauvés par les autres. Djaser est normalement régie par une féodalité...-----
KeenRush Garg Posts: 3249 (5/2/03 3:36 pm) 212.246.17.130 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: hey The running animation looks very good! Greetings from Bloogton Tower!
DSL Vortininja Posts: 61 (5/3/03 3:37 pm) 213.67.7.228 Reply \| Edit \| Del	... It's suposed to be a 3dversion of keen4 cause that episode is my favourite one...
grafix5000 Vortininja Posts: 44 (5/5/03 6:24 am) 80.192.15.36 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Hmm... I thought a 3D Keen game would spoil it too, but after seeing this I changed my mind. ------------------------------------------------------------ Life is just a distraction from Commander Keen. Everyone knows that... ------------------------------------------------------------
revolutionbr Grunt Posts: 21 (5/5/03 8:24 pm) 200.140.5.251 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: ... If u need help to make the levels i can design some. I did a few maps to Quake, Half-Life and Counter-Strike so I know how to work with 3D Landscaping Tools. I prefer Hammer from Valve Software to make levels. It sabes in .map and .rmk mode. But you need .wad compressed files for textures.
Forge315 Grand Intellect Posts: 1445 (5/6/03 4:20 am) 68.106.137.215 Reply \| Edit \| Del	The Affect of Drool I ’ed so much because of that pic I don't need to mop the floor, yep just sloshing my feet around on it is enough.
revolutionbr Grunt Posts: 22 (5/6/03 6:54 pm) 200.140.81.245 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: 3D Keen4 man, why creating a whole engine and textures at 3D Game Studio? Half-Life is tottallly modified, so you can use it 3D plataform and make a Keen game on it base. You just need to change the models, levels, and the entinities that make HL like that and create another game. Like Blue-Shift, etc. There are tutorials at internet of how to do it and programs too. Try looking at Fileplanet.com or Google. Okay? It's better because Half-Life already has an good IA system to monsters!
KeenCommander Vorticon Elite Posts: 656 (5/7/03 3:26 am) 66.19.39.56 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: The Affect of Drool /me is waiting for some poses/animations when you get the bones rigged Ooh, Ooh! will he have facial expressions? Edited by: KeenCommander at: 5/7/03 3:31:01 am
DSL Vortininja Posts: 63 (5/7/03 8:32 pm) 213.67.7.228 Reply \| Edit \| Del	... Acctually there is a gif bonez are done www.geocities.com/whirloop/keenrun.gif well, why not mod halflife? Let's say I'm a guy who likes challanges?
revolutionbr Grunt Posts: 23 (5/7/03 10:16 pm) 200.101.96.78 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Half-life Yeah man! HL mod! That's the good deal. If you're going to make really at HL, you will need modals at .mdl format, if you need any tools I can provide you all them. From sprites to programming. I used to make maps but i can go back to work to help ya just to revive keen! Maybe keen is coming back at x-mas of 2003
Keengamer Commander Keen Mad Posts: 517 (5/7/03 11:06 pm) 203.123.64.149 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: hey *Quote:* Hey dude, can't you see that's the whole challange with this project! i'm sorry DSL this 3d version of keen4 will still take the classic spirit away, i don't even know if i will download it. take your chances, but i'm sure that no one will want to download it Billy Blaze Is The Hero Of The Universe Jawa Wars (Rorie's Place On The Web)
Xtraverse Stranded Fish Posts: 2120 (5/7/03 11:18 pm) 24.48.163.42 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: Half-life No one will want to download that? Somehow I doubt that Keengamer, I know I'll download it if it's finished.
Keengamer Commander Keen Mad Posts: 522 (5/7/03 11:29 pm) 203.123.64.149 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: Half-life have you checked xtraverse@yahoo.com i need you to fix pac-keen remember the problem is that it is to go to the game over room (over) when all lives are gone. but i get this i have had some help from the game maker forum. & someone sent me an example but i couldn't figure it out. so xtraverse you are my last hope, if u recieve this please reply Keengamer
Flaose Pooper, King of the Slugs Posts: 1002 (5/7/03 11:37 pm) 68.147.124.200 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: Half-life Keengamer. Keen 7 was going to be a 3d game. 'no one will want to download it' indeed... -------------------- Cerebral Cortex 314 - For All of your Commander Keen Needs. Eat at Joes
adurdin Wormouth Posts: 747 (5/8/03 7:39 am) 61.9.128.173 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: Half-life I've downloaded pretty much every Keen fan game I've come across -- true, I don't necessarily play them for very long, but I certainly look at them.
revolutionbr Grunt Posts: 24 (5/9/03 7:30 pm) 200.163.25.16 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Download it? of course ppl will download it, lots of people wait hours to download a game at kazaa or any HL mod at Fileplanet. Man, don't be upset, I am sure ppl will like an 3d Keen! It was Tom Hall idea to "The universe is Toast" so, lets go on and make this keen episode! <- Imagine him in 3d! or him ->
KeenRush Garg Posts: 3293 (5/10/03 5:07 am) 212.246.17.130 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: Half-life Hmmm, Half-life.. That's good engine to mod, and you don't need to do as much work then! Good luck! Oh, I can't play it on my comp, unless I get new computer before that, but I can always try it on cousin's house.. BB - CK - MR. 314
stickmanofdoom Grunt Posts: 16 (5/10/03 1:18 pm) 208.143.136.115 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Download it? i'll download it for sure! who wouldnt want to play a 3d keen?
DSL Vortininja Posts: 64 (5/11/03 9:59 am) 213.67.7.228 Reply \| Edit \| Del	... I acctually managed to import the model into 3dgamestudio and made it walk and stuff.
Djaser Holy Monk Yorp Posts: 1456 (5/11/03 12:51 pm) 212.92.76.33 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: Download it? I'd love to see some screens -----Djaser est un nation prétendue neutre mais, dans la réalité, il ne l'est pas car il n'arrête pas d'être envahie par les uns et sauvés par les autres. Djaser est normalement régie par une féodalité...-----
DSL Vortininja Posts: 65 (5/12/03 5:20 am) 213.67.7.228 Reply \| Edit \| Del	... Well, it would not be that fun. Just added keen inside a boxy room. No funny textures at all. sorry. but there will be screenshots coming in the future.
KeenRush Garg Posts: 3304 (5/12/03 2:35 pm) 212.246.17.130 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: Download it? Sounds good! BB - CK - MR. 314
revolutionbr Grunt Posts: 25 (5/13/03 7:13 pm) 200.163.25.188 Reply \| Edit \| Del	help? wanna any help to pack textures or to build up levels?
DSL Vortininja Posts: 66 (5/14/03 9:16 am) 213.67.7.228 Reply \| Edit \| Del	... sure! but my cpu is going through a major upgrade so I won't be working on it for a while. Right now there is much to do (caracter movement and stuff) and I'm sorry to say but I think I have to give up the pogo.. It's to complicated for me to make such a thing (and would it really be so nice to have it in a fps?) But I will drop a line when help is needed!
Keenest Meep Posts: 1 (5/14/03 11:29 pm) 213.46.147.63 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: help? Nice work guys...I always wanted to see Keen in a 3d version!
Keengamer Commander Keen Mad Posts: 537 (5/15/03 11:32 pm) 203.123.64.148 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: 3D Keen4 why does everyone want a 3d keen game? come on everyone admit that a 3d keen game will take away the classic sprit. & do not support dsl's work on this game BTW: dsl if you choose to ignore this, & want to go ahead with your proposed 3d version of commander keen 4, u would probally have to get permission from 3d realms or iD to do this, cos it is still copyrighted i'll let you decide want you what to do Keengamer
Yorpy Foob Posts: 446 (5/16/03 3:57 am) 209.178.143.75 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: 3D Keen4 Geez, Keengamer just leave the guy alone. He's doing good work.
Keengamer Commander Keen Mad Posts: 542 (5/16/03 4:37 am) 203.123.64.148 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: 3D Keen4 but a 3d keen will take away the classic keen sprit. is that what you want Yorpy?
Yowza Grunt Posts: 24 (5/16/03 5:25 am) 203.217.85.30 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: 3D Keen4 Get over it.
keensback Vortininja Posts: 47 (5/16/03 8:26 am) 62.171.194.37 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: 3D Keen4 i'm with keen gamer, a 3d keen game would be terrible although it wouldn't take away from the originals. Keep to 2D Commander Keen the Universe is Toast Online, coming soon... commanderkeen@soupinajamjar.com
Xtraverse Stranded Fish Posts: 2155 (5/16/03 11:33 am) 64.30.37.14 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: 3D Keen4 Why would a game be terrible just because it's 3D? A 3D would be terrible only if it's made badly. Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you on experience -- Mark Twain xtravaganza: http://www.xtraverse.co.nr/ http://www.xtraverse.tk/
keensback Vortininja Posts: 49 (5/16/03 11:35 am) 62.171.194.6 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: 3D Keen4 i generally don't like 3d Commander Keen the Universe is Toast Online, coming soon... commanderkeen@soupinajamjar.com
Keenest Meep Posts: 2 (5/16/03 1:46 pm) 213.46.147.63 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: 3D Keen4 If you see all of those unofficial games they have today..I don't think think they have asked for permission at ID for those. I think we should let him try to make a nice 3d version of Keen, if its no succes...ok too bad. But if it is we have a nice sequel (or remake of keen 4). There's nothing wrong with that or is it?
Djaser Holy Monk Yorp Posts: 1475 (5/16/03 5:37 pm) 212.92.76.33 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: 3D Keen4 *Quote:* why does everyone want a 3d keen game? come on everyone admit that a 3d keen game will take away the classic sprit. & do not support dsl's work on this game BTW: dsl if you choose to ignore this, & want to go ahead with your proposed 3d version of commander keen 4, u would probally have to get permission from 3d realms or iD to do this, cos it is still copyrighted i'll let you decide want you what to do Keengamer oops, double posted could one of the admin's please remove 1 of these, i don't know how it happended Keengamer I'm growing sick of you bashing DSL. You've made your point. The guy is doing great work. The game will be a lot beter than you pac keen or my mod when he finish it. It's like you're even trying to make him stop his project. Why? -----Djaser est un nation prétendue neutre mais, dans la réalité, il ne l'est pas car il n'arrête pas d'être envahie par les uns et sauvés par les autres. Djaser est normalement régie par une féodalité...-----
revolutionbr Grunt Posts: 26 (5/16/03 10:06 pm) 200.163.25.207 Reply \| Edit \| Del	My plan... Man, with this, we are going to revive KEEN! My idea for this project: -Develop all the plataform engine (if its on HL mod it need to be done too) -Make Sprites, some models and a level. -Build up a demo version -Send it to ID Soft. and ask for they support or/and authorization to keep up the project. -If they agree! Man, its done! We can ask then even a copy of "the universe is toast" to us to make it or make just an keen 4 mod if the agree but not with the toast idea. -If not, let's keep on the work without ID support. -Then we finish the game and release it. Project 3D Keen coming soon...
DSL Vortininja Posts: 67 (5/17/03 1:48 pm) 213.67.7.228 Reply \| Edit \| Del	... I can agree with everyone that a platformgame is much more Keen than in 3D. But exploring Shadowlands from Keen's eyes is totaly another experience. Not saying that this game will be awsome. If you think that a 3dversion would spoil everything, don't download it! I'm not trying to force everyone. Geez, can't see why you are so angry... So be nice to eachother. I don't want to start a war here.
BlueIllusionX Vortininja Posts: 213 (5/17/03 4:59 pm) 209.82.28.54 Reply \| Edit \| Del	. keengamer, what the heck are you talking about? it would take away the keen spirit. If tom Hall wanted Keen 7 to be 3d (which he DID and will if he gets the rights) then there's nothing wrong with a 3d keen. Of course eveyone likes 2d still, but if tom hall has imagination for a 3d, then whats wrong with it? do you think tom will kill the spirit of keen?
Djaser Holy Monk Yorp Posts: 1481 (5/17/03 6:46 pm) 212.92.76.33 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: My plan... Ofcourse Tom Hall is the biggest threat to Keen bigger than ID. -----Djaser est un nation prétendue neutre mais, dans la réalité, il ne l'est pas car il n'arrête pas d'être envahie par les uns et sauvés par les autres. Djaser est normalement régie par une féodalité...-----
keensback Vortininja Posts: 56 (5/17/03 7:50 pm) 80.192.13.177 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: ... explain Commander Keen the Universe is Toast Online, coming soon...
Xtraverse Stranded Fish Posts: 2165 (5/17/03 9:45 pm) 24.48.163.42 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: . It's called sarcasm. Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you on experience -- Mark Twain xtravaganza: http://www.xtraverse.co.nr/ http://www.xtraverse.tk/
0 UNFLEEXABLE 0 Vorticon Elite Posts: 649 (5/18/03 8:16 am) 202.7.209.122 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: My plan... man, i should've replied earlier! Keengamer, Why don't you get support for Pac-Keen from iD, I don't see it happening, so stop your whingeing, just because you want your game to be more popular than his! (well, I'm assuming so.) We should be supporting each other and not threatening. I can't wait for keen 4 3d to be released. I just hope the zip will be quite small (considering that it's a 3d game). We're not making money out of these projects so iD shouldn't have a problem with it. And either way, they're doing nothing with Commander Keen anyway, and whenever they try to do something new, it ends up like a pile of crap. (i.e GBC). So whoever doesn't want to kill the erm classic spirit*, there is none because this new 3D game is not owned by iD, and it will not change the world of keen at all. (Unless your a sensitive little crybaby that falls for everything.) I've always loved to have seen a keen-based 3D game (i would consider RKP3 to be a 2Dish 3D game), as long as it wasn't gorey and all. I don't care whether a game is 2D or 3D, as long as the game is a good one. -- Pinch, Pinch... BLIND, Clamp! --
Xtraverse Stranded Fish Posts: 2167 (5/18/03 11:46 am) 24.48.163.42 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: ... Actually, ID is a bunch of morons and if you emailed them asking if it was OK, they would say it isn't. Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you on experience -- Mark Twain xtravaganza: http://www.xtraverse.co.nr/ http://www.xtraverse.tk/
Djaser Holy Monk Yorp Posts: 1483 (5/18/03 11:54 am) 212.92.76.33 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: . Or they just won't reply.... -----Djaser est un nation prétendue neutre mais, dans la réalité, il ne l'est pas car il n'arrête pas d'être envahie par les uns et sauvés par les autres. Djaser est normalement régie par une féodalité...-----
Keengamer Commander Keen Mad Posts: 543 (5/19/03 1:28 am) 203.123.64.148 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: 3D Keen4 *Quote:* Why don't you get support for Pac-Keen from iD, I don't see it happening, so stop your whingeing, just because you want your game to be more popular than his! (well, I'm assuming so.) allright everyone, i admit it i have been a bit of a bitch, & i think i will download it now. please forgive me dsl *Quote:* keengamer, what the heck are you talking about? it would take away the keen spirit. If tom Hall wanted Keen 7 to be 3d (which he DID and will if he gets the rights) then there's nothing wrong with a 3d keen. Of course eveyone likes 2d still, but if tom hall has imagination for a 3d, then whats wrong with it? do you think tom will kill the spirit of keen? no, far as i know it tom would never kill keen *Quote:* Keengamer I'm growing sick of you bashing DSL. You've made your point. The guy is doing great work. The game will be a lot beter than you pac keen or my mod when he finish it. It's like you're even trying to make him stop his project. Why? i apologize djaser for hassling dsl, & i now think dsl is doing execellent work. i will never attack dsl again, & i would never ever make him stop his project, despite this flame war. are u still interested in pac-keen, i swear i will try it make it good i also apologize to everyone i offended & vow that this will never happen again
DSL Vortininja Posts: 69 (5/19/03 12:58 pm) 213.67.7.228 Reply \| Edit \| Del	... You are forgiven
lv4n Meep Posts: 1 (5/19/03 8:57 pm) 212.124.92.21 Reply \| Edit \| Del	where so where can I dl keen3d? Edited by: lv4n at: 5/19/03 9:02:14 pm
BlueIllusionX Vortininja Posts: 214 (5/19/03 11:16 pm) 209.82.28.49 Reply \| Edit \| Del	. well, if you read the whole topic, dsl is making the game right now. its not going to be released for a while.
Djaser Holy Monk Yorp Posts: 1493 (5/20/03 12:30 pm) 212.92.76.33 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: ... I would be happy suprised if he'll finish it. Yet I hope to see some nice screens -----Djaser est un nation prétendue neutre mais, dans la réalité, il ne l'est pas car il n'arrête pas d'être envahie par les uns et sauvés par les autres. Djaser est normalement régie par une féodalité...-----
DSL Vortininja Posts: 71 (5/20/03 1:41 pm) 213.67.7.228 Reply \| Edit \| Del	... Right now I haven't reached that far. Just managed to get the model running inside a room. I'w have loads of schoolw00rk to do so I will probably start the project seriously when I get my vacation.
grafix5000 Vortininja Posts: 46 (5/21/03 6:40 am) 64.152.195.37 Reply \| Edit \| Del	? Will the game be like Duke Nukem: Manhattan Project (i.e. a 3D side-scroller) or a full 3D game? Keen, Keen, Keen, Keen, Keen.(it's sugar free!!!)
DSL Vortininja Posts: 74 (5/21/03 1:29 pm) 213.67.7.228 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: ... It's much harder to make it like DNManhattan so I think it will be full FPS
revolutionbr Grunt Posts: 29 (5/23/03 7:34 pm) 200.163.25.144 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Keensback??? man, hav u played Ultima Online or Earth Beyond? 3d Keen can be like that! 3D and on a third person view but not sidescrooling! I will try to make an Keen Skin to Ultima Online, you will see... And it will be the frist UO Skin in this game history!
Keenest Meep Posts: 3 (5/29/03 11:38 pm) 213.46.147.63 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: ? Can ya send us some more screenshots? I'm so excited about how it's going to look like.
DSL Vortininja Posts: 75 (5/30/03 8:13 am) 213.67.7.228 Reply \| Edit \| Del	... Easy there. Haven't got much to show yet...
0 UNFLEEXABLE 0 Vorticon Elite Posts: 699 (5/30/03 8:42 am) 202.7.209.126 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: Keensback??? yeah, it will take a while for a decent snapshot. -- Pinch, Pinch... BLIND, Clamp! --
grafix5000 Vortininja Posts: 54 (5/30/03 12:05 pm) 64.152.195.37 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: ? It would probably be a more popular game if DSL showed us real, real good screens rather than prototypes, so I see why he won't give us any yet. Keen, Keen, Keen, Keen, Keen. (it's sugar free!!!)
Manboy Vortininja Posts: 116 (6/6/03 3:51 pm) 63.34.231.208 Reply \| Edit \| Del	3rd person FPS? Is this being played from a first person perspective orrr? If that's the case, surely an over the shoulder 3rd person camera would be more appropriate? Maybe I missed something. ANYWAY; I'm right behind you on this DSL! Last time I checked out fan games, they were all Klik 'n' Play minigames. I want to see this finished, so I thought you should know I've done a bunch of 3d keen characters I could easily strip polygons off for use if you're interested. Here's one I prepared earlier. Not too much work required to get this one game ready. The rest of my stuff is here.
Djaser Holy Monk Yorp Posts: 1577 (6/6/03 6:26 pm) 212.92.76.33 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: Keensback??? Great work. You two should really work together! -----Djaser est un nation prétendue neutre mais, dans la réalité, il ne l'est pas car il n'arrête pas d'être envahie par les uns et sauvés par les autres. Djaser est normalement régie par une féodalité...-----
revolutionbr Grunt Posts: 30 (6/6/03 8:41 pm) 200.140.80.31 Reply \| Edit \| Del	LOL very nice! This Dopefish is one of the best i have ever seen!
Nospike88 Nospikian Elite Posts: 22 (6/7/03 2:25 am) 210.84.253.31 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: 3rd person Too right! That's a great picture
DSL Vortininja Posts: 76 (6/7/03 10:56 am) 213.67.7.228 Reply \| Edit \| Del	COol dopefish! :dopefish Just lower the polycount on the eyes. They would still look good if tou used eight polys... I want this game to run smooth.. Just remember folkes, I want all models as one object, skinned with one map(texture). 3dGamestudio uses *.mdl so I would also apriciate if you could export it in mdl. Thankyou!
Manboy Vortininja Posts: 117 (6/7/03 11:40 am) 63.34.231.203 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Ayes Ya, the eyes need to change, natuarally. I hadn't done anything for that screen grab besides turn meshsmooth off. What version of max did you say you had?
DSL Vortininja Posts: 77 (6/7/03 1:21 pm) 213.67.7.228 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Wich version? I use max version 5. If you want to export mesh to mdl in max, download this plugin http://www.conitecserver.com/down/maxexport4.zip The plugin is best suited for max4 but works for max5 too.
DSL Vortininja Posts: 78 (6/7/03 4:30 pm) 213.67.7.228 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Poisonslug model http://www.geocities.com/whirloop/poisonslug.jpg oison oison
Forge315 Tres-tria quindecim Posts: 1500 (6/7/03 5:08 pm) 68.106.137.215 Reply \| Edit \| Del	. Wow, great slug! Good luck guys,
Djaser Holy Monk Yorp Posts: 1580 (6/7/03 5:12 pm) 212.92.76.33 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: Wich version? Nice -----Djaser est un nation prétendue neutre mais, dans la réalité, il ne l'est pas car il n'arrête pas d'être envahie par les uns et sauvés par les autres. Djaser est normalement régie par une féodalité...-----
Keenest Grunt Posts: 4 (6/9/03 1:46 pm) 213.46.147.63 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: Poisonslug model Nice stuff!!!
KeenRush Garg Posts: 3401 (6/9/03 2:13 pm) 212.246.17.130 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: . Very nice! BB - CK - MR. 314
revolutionbr Vortininja Posts: 32 (6/11/03 6:20 pm) 200.140.6.238 Reply \| Edit \| Del	? fine but weird
The Phantom Blob Grunt Posts: 26 (6/12/03 1:50 pm) 62.238.4.57 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Damnit I can't seem to see the pictures so far except for the two keens... DSL, if you care about interested people and/or are really nice, please mail me the pics-- mushra64@hotmail.com ...please?
grafix5000 Vortininja Posts: 95 (6/12/03 4:30 pm) 80.192.14.121 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: . Umm... KeenRush, how often are you going to say: *Quote:* Very nice! I know it is very nice but you said exactly the same thing when I uploaded that picture of a cake. Maybe you're a robot... Keen, Keen, Keen, Keen, Keen. (it's sugar free!!!)
lv4n Grunt Posts: 11 (6/13/03 9:16 am) 193.201.243.253 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: ? I can't see the Poisonslug model too. ---- All Your Base Are Belong To Us! "We're not here because we're free, we're here because we're not free." Agent Smith, The Matrix Reloaded
Djaser Holy Monk Yorp Posts: 1597 (6/13/03 9:46 am) 212.92.76.33 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: Damnit KeenRush is just a robot cloon of MM. -----Djaser est un nation prétendue neutre mais, dans la réalité, il ne l'est pas car il n'arrête pas d'être envahie par les uns et sauvés par les autres. Djaser est normalement régie par une féodalité...-----
0 UNFLEEXABLE 0 Vorticon Elite Posts: 743 (6/13/03 11:03 am) 217.185.179.206 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: . amazing pics manboy and dsl, im very impressed. i reckon you should use that dopefish model, it looks really cool. this will definately qualify for a keen award once its completed. and you never know, iD might port it to xbox-ps2-gamecube with more levels and more advanced graphics. id software REALLY SHOULD distribute and port some of the really good fan games. i would pay money to watch a shadowlands episode and not give a damn about the gbc keen game. btw, nice avatar grafix! -- Pinch, Pinch... BLIND, Clamp! --
Xtraverse Stranded Fish Posts: 2250 (6/13/03 11:43 am) 24.48.163.42 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: ? And what "really good" Keen fangames have we got? Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you on experience -- Mark Twain xtravaganza: http://www.xtraverse.co.nr/ http://www.xtraverse.tk/
0 UNFLEEXABLE 0 Vorticon Elite Posts: 751 (6/13/03 5:37 pm) 217.185.179.251 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: Damnit i think most keen fan games (not by games factory or knp or anything like that) are really good (or at least the ones that i have played) rkp3 is one of the best fan games ive seen so far. -- Pinch, Pinch... BLIND, Clamp! --
Djaser Holy Monk Yorp Posts: 1603 (6/13/03 5:41 pm) 212.92.76.33 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: . Spork series, Battery Yuck, Isis II, ROAYS, RKP III ect. I think these are good fan games . -----Djaser est un nation prétendue neutre mais, dans la réalité, il ne l'est pas car il n'arrête pas d'être envahie par les uns et sauvés par les autres. Djaser est normalement régie par une féodalité...-----
0 UNFLEEXABLE 0 Vorticon Elite Posts: 757 (6/13/03 5:55 pm) 217.185.179.251 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: ? whats roay and where can i download spork. (ill have to download later because im in germany at the moment, probably 24 hours later ill be in belgium) -- Pinch, Pinch... BLIND, Clamp! --
Snaily Messie Posts: 844 (6/13/03 6:16 pm) 213.65.97.229 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: . *Quote:* Battery Yuck Would that be "Bacteri-Yuk!"? (Someone (Ilsoap?) should remake that as a mod.) ________ ¨@_
0 UNFLEEXABLE 0 Vorticon Elite Posts: 763 (6/13/03 7:00 pm) 217.185.179.251 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: . *Quote:* Battery Yuck *Quote:* Bacteri-Yuk! did you think the game was set inside a battery -- Pinch, Pinch... BLIND, Clamp! --
Zorath Vortininja Posts: 186 (6/13/03 8:30 pm) 195.165.4.225 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: . *Quote:* (Someone (Ilsoap?) should remake that as a mod.) A similar idea was used in Xtra's 3:rd mod.
Xtraverse Stranded Fish Posts: 2251 (6/13/03 8:37 pm) 24.48.163.42 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: ? Djaser, are you trying to tell jokes? Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you on experience -- Mark Twain xtravaganza: http://www.xtraverse.co.nr/ http://www.xtraverse.tk/
Flaose Pooper, King of the Slugs Posts: 1090 (6/14/03 2:56 am) 68.147.109.142 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: . All the released fan-games are crap next to any commercial stuff I've seen. -------------------- Cerebral Cortex 314 - For All of your Commander Keen Needs. Eat at Joes
Scizor CT Council Janitor Posts: 489 (6/14/03 3:37 am) 68.18.218.217 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: . RKP3 and Isis 2 are the only ones anywhere near commercial class, and they still pale in comparison. My Remixes: Here! Click here!
adurdin Wormouth Posts: 799 (6/14/03 4:09 am) 203.55.91.137 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: . Well seriously, Flaose, what do you expect? Fan-games are mostly made by people who have next to no experience in game design, and are done in spare time by people who don't get paid for it. Commercial stuff is almost certain to be better, in a majority of cases.
The Phantom Blob Vortininja Posts: 36 (6/14/03 6:16 am) 62.238.4.57 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: indeed But I realy think "episode X" is a well-made game, especialy the begining where you see the BWB. And the Norp the Yorp series were quite inventive too.
0 UNFLEEXABLE 0 Vorticon Elite Posts: 769 (6/14/03 8:52 am) 217.185.186.47 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: . *Quote:* All the released fan-games are crap next to any commercial stuff I've seen. Definately, but some really good mods make the original keen games look like crap due to the brilliant graphics & almost impossible levels. *Quote:* RKP3 and Isis 2 are the only ones anywhere near commercial class, and they still pale in comparison. These fan games are really good, but if only they were made in the past, they probably wouldve been thought to be commercial quality keen games. *Quote:* Well seriously, Flaose, what do you expect? Fan-games are mostly made by people who have next to no experience in game design, and are done in spare time by people who don't get paid for it. Commercial stuff is almost certain to be better, in a majority of cases. So true. Most fan games are imperfect and have a lot of bugs, the original keen games had bugs too, but they werent too obvious and most of them needed to be experimented in order for them to be found (as we know, most bugs in games can only be found with cheats) *Quote:* But I realy think "episode X" is a well-made game, especialy the begining where you see the BWB. And the Norp the Yorp series were quite inventive too. True, but many of us use tools such as paint shop pro etc, and if they were made back then, who knows, the graphics in keen games wouldve probably have been much better than they already are. (god bless ega) -- Pinch, Pinch... BLIND, Clamp! --
Flaose Pooper, King of the Slugs Posts: 1094 (6/14/03 1:11 pm) 68.147.109.142 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: . *Quote:* Originally Posted by: adurdin Well seriously, Flaose, what do you expect? Fan-games are mostly made by people who have next to no experience in game design, and are done in spare time by people who don't get paid for it. Commercial stuff is almost certain to be better, in a majority of cases. I know that Andrew, I don't expect the greatest from fan games. I'm just trying to dispell the myth certain somebody's have, thinking that any of the fan-games are commercial quality. *Quote:* Originally Posted by: Scizor CT RKP3 and Isis 2 are the only ones anywhere near commercial class, and they still pale in comparison. I disagree. I didn't like RKP3 one bit. The only fun part of it was the dart mini-game accessed from the main menu. -------------------- Cerebral Cortex 314 - For All of your Commander Keen Needs. Eat at Joes
The Phantom Blob Vortininja Posts: 41 (6/14/03 1:38 pm) 62.238.4.57 Reply \| Edit \| Del	WHERE?? About RKP3-where can I download the full version??
Scizor CT Council Janitor Posts: 490 (6/14/03 1:51 pm) 68.18.218.217 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: . I was mostly just talking engine-wise concerning those two, though actual level design and game quality is highly important too. My Remixes: Here! Click here!
The Phantom Blob Vortininja Posts: 43 (6/14/03 2:13 pm) 62.238.4.57 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: someone... please....! Does anybody know where to get RKP3? PLease, help me!
KeenRush Garg Posts: 3433 (6/14/03 2:21 pm) 212.246.17.130 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: WHERE?? *Quote:* Umm... KeenRush, how often are you going to say: Very nice! Very nice! D'oh, I mean that I say that always when something is very nice. What else I should? BB - CK - MR. 314
The Phantom Blob Vortininja Posts: 44 (6/14/03 2:30 pm) 62.238.4.57 Reply \| Edit \| Del	¬_¬" Fine, I'll find it by myself.
Flaose Pooper, King of the Slugs Posts: 1095 (6/14/03 4:43 pm) 68.147.109.142 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: someone... please....! You didn't even wait for an hour to get a reply. We're not that active of a community, settle down. -------------------- Cerebral Cortex 314 - For All of your Commander Keen Needs. Eat at Joes
The Phantom Blob Vortininja Posts: 48 (6/14/03 5:57 pm) 62.238.4.57 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: WHERE?? So err... does it exsist?
Djaser Holy Monk Yorp Posts: 1607 (6/15/03 12:01 pm) 212.92.76.33 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: ¬_¬" ofcourse are fangames not as good as the original games. But people spent a lot time on them and most were made before modkeen so why bashing them. The people who made them did the best they could. And the few I mentioned are quite fun. -----Djaser est un nation prétendue neutre mais, dans la réalité, il ne l'est pas car il n'arrête pas d'être envahie par les uns et sauvés par les autres. Djaser est normalement régie par une féodalité...-----
Djaser Holy Monk Yorp Posts: 1608 (6/15/03 12:05 pm) 212.92.76.33 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: 3D Keen4 *Quote:* did you think the game was set inside a battery Bah I screwed that up. -----Djaser est un nation prétendue neutre mais, dans la réalité, il ne l'est pas car il n'arrête pas d'être envahie par les uns et sauvés par les autres. Djaser est normalement régie par une féodalité...-----
KeenEmpire Keen's Empire Posts: 597 (6/17/03 4:53 pm) 203.151.38.3 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: WHERE?? Hey, maybe we should make one set inside a battery! Alpha, Alpha, before with shouts of W00t! Hornets flew there; the light upon the silver Staff Suit, Fell like black rain upon the bases of the squads of old, Oh proud Walls, oh shooting turrets, oh unblocked road for all the bold! Alpha, Alpha, will infs behold the silver suit, Or bubblegum blow again with cries of happy W00t?
KeenRush Garg Posts: 3447 (6/17/03 6:03 pm) 212.246.17.130 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: WHERE?? Well.. That could be something different.. Go ahead! BB - CK - MR. 314
Keengamer Commander Keen Mad Posts: 596 (6/25/03 4:11 am) 203.123.64.149 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: 3D Keen4 DSL & everyone i know we have all being thru this, but why does everyone wants a 3dkeen game. DSL this is in no way a threat or insult. i just want to know why everybody wants a 3d keen DSL any progress on your 3d keen?. i would like to contribute but drawing 3d graphics is out of my reach. but i sure other people can help. like some of the people that already have
grafix5000 Vortininja Posts: 103 (6/25/03 6:46 am) 62.30.77.49 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: 3D Keen4 Yeah, a Keen game in a battery would be funny. Hang on... -=IDEA FLASH!!=- Commander Keen is in his backyard in Madison, Winconsin, fixing the Bean-With-Bacon Megarocket and creating a new device to shrink himself. Looking at the car battery he used as fuel for the BWB, he shakes his head and says, "Nah, needs a new one. But, as he turns back to the garage to get a new battery- WAHBAM! He knocks the shrinking device, and falls down, down, down... into the old battery that was by his side. So the great tale is told: Commander Keen in Battery Crisis! Keen, Keen, Keen, Keen, Keen. (it's sugar free!!!) goto www.geocities.com/grafix_5000 to see my site!
Djaser Holy Monk Yorp Posts: 1662 (6/25/03 9:51 am) 212.92.76.33 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: WHERE?? 3d games are just fun, and I would love to see the graphics. Btf I wonder if DSL is still there? We haven't seen him for a few weeks. -----Djaser est un nation prétendue neutre mais, dans la réalité, il ne l'est pas car il n'arrête pas d'être envahie par les uns et sauvés par les autres. Djaser est normalement régie par une féodalité...-----
0 UNFLEEXABLE 0 Sir Posts Alot Posts: 934 (6/25/03 11:11 am) 217.185.176.168 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: 3D Keen4 i wouldnt mind waiting a few hours for this cool 3d keen game. although i still hope the file is as small as possible. you should use winace (i havent got it yet but it supports zip too so ill download it soon) to compress the files. -- Damn the 1 minute delay! --
Scizor CT Council Janitor Posts: 507 (6/25/03 1:43 pm) 68.18.194.177 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: 3D Keen4 .rar offers the best compression I know of, but most people don't have WinRar, which decompresses just about everything. My Remixes: Here! Click here!
Ckmaster Vortininja Posts: 41 (6/25/03 4:31 pm) 195.92.198.74 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: 3D Keen4 well if winrar is thebest ompression u no of (scizor ct) then y not sum1 looks hopefully at scizor upload it prior to the release of the game so every 1 can have thebest comprtession ustilty..lol - just a thought???? PS: i dnt mind uploading it for ya if ull just take the trouble to email it to me???? Keenmaster@42oak.freeserve.co.uk check out my new site - its not complete but still good www25.brinkster.com/ckodysee later!
Flaose Pooper, King of the Slugs Posts: 1121 (6/25/03 8:18 pm) 68.147.109.142 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: 3D Keen4 Why don't you get it yourself? http://www.rarlab.com/ -------------------- Cerebral Cortex 314 - For All of your Commander Keen Needs. Eat at Joes
0 UNFLEEXABLE 0 Sir Posts Alot Posts: 942 (6/26/03 10:23 am) 217.185.186.141 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: 3D Keen4 i dont know why everybody uses winzip when theres so many other superior utilities available i also speak for myself when i say this -- Damn the 1 minute delay! --
Scizor CT Council Janitor Posts: 509 (6/26/03 12:57 pm) 68.18.194.177 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: 3D Keen4 It's gotten enough word-of-mouth advertising that it's the most widely known .zip program. Interesting custom title, by the way. My Remixes: Here! Click here!
Keengamer Commander Keen Mad Posts: 599 (6/27/03 3:06 am) 203.123.64.149 Reply \| Edit \| Del	3D Keen4 that is a nice 3d animation of keen DSL & should be used in your game
KeenRush Garg Posts: 3499 (6/27/03 4:15 am) 212.246.17.130 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: 3D Keen4 I'm not sure, but that can mean that you must be more careful with your Add Reply -button in the future.. BB - CK - MR. 314
0 UNFLEEXABLE 0 Sir Posts Alot Posts: 951 (6/27/03 12:51 pm) 217.185.180.3 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: 3D Keen4 it happens with me sometimes, (such as the remake of the test topic thread), i made a topic which i had accidentally posted twice and edited one of them and made up a lame alternative -- Damn the 1 minute delay! --
Keengamer Commander Keen Mad Posts: 608 (6/30/03 3:03 am) 203.123.64.149 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: 3D Keen4 where is DSL? i feel so STUPID. i think i have scared him away. because of my rudeness we will probally never see this 3d keen now. DSL: despite of all this, i really really want to see this game. i have changed PLEASE BELIEVE ME I REALLY HAVE CHANGED please continue with your game Keengamer
Robo Blue Vortininja Posts: 89 (6/30/03 5:06 am) 24.187.190.18 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: 3D Keen4 If he does come back, I'm offering my support in any way I can. I can upload files to my site (I have 19.8mb free), and mabye help design the logo. If 3D game studio ever finishes downloading, I'll do a few models for enemies and see if I'm any good. I might even be able to do that new boss I have planned for Keenbound... that'd be one awesome enemy if it comes out good.
KeenRush Garg Posts: 3531 (6/30/03 6:04 am) 81.209.126.237 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: 3D Keen4 It's summer here where he was (though I'm not in Sweden, he was there) and he seemed to be a guy that had other life than computer one.. So, he's out maybe.. Or then I'm talking about totally wrong person.. BB - CK - MR. 314
Forge315 Tres-tria quindecim Posts: 1538 (7/2/03 11:15 pm) 68.106.137.215 Reply \| Edit \| Del	well I really doubt DSL is gone, he just isn't an active part of our community IMO.
Manboy Vortininja Posts: 119 (7/8/03 12:49 pm) 63.34.232.198 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Game fish Well, I finally got my arse into gear and fixed up this fish for game export. Email me and I'll send you the zip with the max file and the texture, DSL. Now I'll read the last five pages or whatever that have been appended to this thread since I was here last.
Flaose Pooper, King of the Slugs Posts: 1152 (7/8/03 2:31 pm) 68.147.109.142 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: 3D Keen4 Sweeeeet. Das Fish looks awesome. -------------------- Cerebral Cortex 314 - For All of your Commander Keen Needs. Eat at Joes
Robo Blue Vortininja Posts: 136 (7/8/03 2:46 pm) 24.187.190.18 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: well Fantastic Job! All you need is the bubble. I wish I knew how to use 3D Game Studio. I have so many ideas... The Official Keenbound Site Edited by: Robo Blue at: 7/8/03 9:25 pm
KeenRush Garg Posts: 3578 (7/8/03 3:07 pm) 212.246.17.130 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: Game fish Very cool fish! BB - CK - MR. 314
Manboy Vortininja Posts: 120 (7/9/03 1:56 pm) 63.34.232.154 Reply \| Edit \| Del	286 I'd have put the bubble in, except this is for a game, so anything like that'd be handled by a particle or a sprite or something. Plus, it'd push the polygon count past 286, and that'd be dissing the computer I played keen 4 on.
Djaser Holy Monk Yorp Posts: 1701 (7/10/03 8:55 am) 212.92.76.33 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: well Wow I'll save that one -----Djaser est un nation prétendue neutre mais, dans la réalité, il ne l'est pas car il n'arrête pas d'être envahie par les uns et sauvés par les autres. Djaser est normalement régie par une féodalité...-----
Nospike88 Nospikian Elite Posts: 49 (7/10/03 9:43 am) 210.84.253.131 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: Game fish That's one great fish! Edited by: Nospike88 at: 7/10/03 9:44 am
grafix5000 Vortininja Posts: 123 (7/12/03 2:11 pm) 62.30.77.49 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: 286 If you had one of those l33t workstations, like the ones Pixar and Dreamworks have, you could improve that to :drool x 1 googleplex and make a Keen movie. For those of you with no knowledge of a googleplex: 10^100 Now [i]that's[/i] a googleplex. (Gets thrashed by angry admins for posting such a long message. Or not?...) [i]Yes, you will - Flaose[/i] Cannot include signature or avatar because they both failed. :lol P.S: In the UK it´s normally spelt google. Or at least I do.) Edited by: grafix5000 at: 8/7/03 2:52 pm
Snaily Messie Posts: 852 (7/12/03 2:42 pm) 213.65.97.229 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: well Please write that as 10^100. ________ ¨@_
Dacrots Grunt Posts: 7 (7/13/03 12:06 am) 4.65.83.144 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: Game fish Regarding the googol talk: First, "google" is incorrect... it's googol. Only the search engine is spelled google. Also, the number you posted is a googol, not a googolplex. A googolplex is 10 to the power of a googol... i.e. 10^(10^100) Very big. More info: Googolplex stuff Edited by: Dacrots at: 7/13/03 2:36 am
Forge315 Tres-tria quindecim Posts: 1544 (7/13/03 12:50 am) 68.106.139.200 Reply \| Edit \| Del	woot Great fish Manboy, <--- such fish doesn't compare
Manboy Vortininja Posts: 121 (7/13/03 2:16 pm) 63.34.232.11 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Hey Don't dis the original sprite, man. Carmack did with 16 colours and a 64 pixel square (approx) what I could only clumsily approach with 286 polygons and a 24 bit texture.
JavaKeen Grunt Posts: 12 (7/14/03 3:54 am) 24.118.126.207 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: Game fish Great work on the 3D model I'm looking forward to the game. Let me warn you though, most programs that let you design "full featured 3D games" without writing any actual 3D graphics engine code aren't the most effecient. Keep it simple at first, because it can take a lot of processing power to run an optimized 3D game. Just keep that in mind. If you need anyone to help do modeling, I have lots of experience modeling for POV-Ray, and would be willing to help. ----------------------------------------------------------- Check out the development of Java-Keen, the first online graphical version of Commander Keen!! javakeen.servegame.com
JavaKeen Grunt Posts: 13 (7/14/03 4:00 am) 24.118.126.207 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Admin please... Sorry, but the 100 zeros on the googol are really messing up the board. If an admin reads this, would you please try to shorten up that number? Don't mean to start a "flame war" or anything, it just makes the board really hard to read.
Superadammario64 Vortininja Posts: 118 (7/14/03 2:11 pm) 24.43.217.7 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: Hey Cool dopefish model.
duke4e Meep Posts: 1 (7/15/03 12:13 am) 193.198.138.76 Reply \| Edit \| Del	need some help? if you need texture creator or/and music creator for this project, email me! + i've got lots of ideas/advices for keen 3d duke4e@yahoo.com Edited by: duke4e at: 7/15/03 12:15 am
cybernetic dream Vortininja Posts: 138 (7/18/03 11:06 am) 62.194.134.4 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: Admin please... I can make MP3 (WAV) music, and a few textures too. _________ Homepage
thenewmoonsidianX Vortininja Posts: 165 (7/18/03 6:23 pm) 66.137.172.84 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: Hey Very nice Keen. Very nice fish. I hope we see this project finished soon. I'm supporting DSL in finishing it and I hope he hasn't been scared off. I tried 3D programming for a while with Acknex Version 4 and it just didn't work. However it will be nice to see Keen4 in 3D! If it will be FPS, it should be non-violent like Chex Quest....how many people here have played Chex Quest?
Robo Blue Vortininja Posts: 236 (7/18/03 6:39 pm) 24.187.190.18 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: need some help? I've played Chex Quest. It was great! I think it was a Doom mod though.... So much for being nonviolent. I cant wait until DSL releases his first demo! and when it's finally complete... my house is gonna need flooding insurance. Official Keenbound Site
Keengamer Commander Keen Mad Posts: 667 (7/30/03 2:52 am) 203.123.64.149 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: 3D Keen4 YIPEE! DSL HAS GIVEN UP ON HIS 3D KEEN HORRAY! NO 3DKEEN HORRAY! NO GAME THAT WILL TAKE AWAY THE CLASSIC SPIRIT face it everyone, this community just has no room for someone who wants to make a 3d keen game HAHAHA JUST JOKING, DON'T TAKE THIS SERIOUSLY
KeenRush Garg Posts: 3700 (7/30/03 2:43 pm) 212.246.17.130 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: Hey Sometimes you have odd sense of humour.. I hope he's still making it.. BB - CK - MR. 314
Djaser Holy Monk Yorp Posts: 1749 (7/30/03 4:26 pm) 212.92.76.33 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: need some help? I'm worried where the guy is. -----Djaser est un nation prétendue neutre mais, dans la réalité, il ne l'est pas car il n'arrête pas d'être envahie par les uns et sauvés par les autres. Djaser est normalement régie par une féodalité...-----
KeenRush Garg Posts: 3703 (7/30/03 6:43 pm) 212.246.17.130 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: 3D Keen4 I think he is having fun because there is summer. Well, he will come back! I hope. BB - CK - MR. 314
MRC Marky Vorticon Elite Posts: 335 (7/30/03 10:51 pm) 194.251.240.107 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: 3D Keen4 This is probably the first time I'm taking part in this discussion.. just looked through those 3d models, and oughta say - i got very impressed. Apparently , there is finally a team of experts making way for a 3D keen. Great job indeed.
commanderkeen2318 Meep Posts: 1 (7/31/03 3:01 pm) 69.21.12.97 Reply \| Edit \| Del	I can endorse Keen 3D with my company I have a company called Wagner-Mason Data Systems, I can endorse and if possible, support your new Keen mod. E-mail me at wkwagner@tds.net or my company e-mail: wm_data_systems@yahoo.com My website is: www.geocites.com/wm_data_systems sucks rules Get Psyched
commanderkeen2318 Meep Posts: 2 (7/31/03 3:15 pm) 69.21.12.97 Reply \| Edit \| Del	I'd download it, if I knew where you would have links I'd download it, if I'd knew where your site would be to download it. Of course, you could give me the information and I can make links on my company site.
Xtraverse Stranded Fish Posts: 2371 (7/31/03 4:34 pm) 24.48.161.131 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: 3D Keen4 Uhh..when I go to your page, all I see is white space. Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you on experience -- Mark Twain xtravaganza: http://www.xtraverse.co.nr/ http://www.xtraverse.tk/
KeenRush Garg Posts: 3709 (7/31/03 5:11 pm) 212.246.17.130 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: I can endorse Keen 3D with my company At least works in Opera. BB - CK - MR. 314
Robo Blue Vorticon Elite Posts: 375 (7/31/03 5:17 pm) 24.187.190.18 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: I'd download it, if I knew where you would have links I can view his page. This company is apparently run by middle school students, so at least we know that ID won't be after us. Official Keenbound Site
Flaose Pooper, King of the Slugs Posts: 1189 (7/31/03 7:25 pm) 68.147.109.142 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: 3D Keen4 Why would that stop them? -------------------- Cerebral Cortex 314 - For All of your Commander Keen Needs. Eat at Joes
GooberMan Vortininja Posts: 80 (7/31/03 11:25 pm) 203.94.140.5 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Keen 3D If you're interested in moving away from 3D game studio, I'm a programmer who has programmed a 3D engine that was originally intended for a Commander Keen 3D game, but I unfortunately couldn't get any artists interested in making art for it. I won't be using that engine again, but I will be writing a new one soon, so if you're interested I'll offer my services as a programmer.
Xtraverse Stranded Fish Posts: 2372 (7/31/03 11:31 pm) 24.48.161.131 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: I'd download it, if I knew where you would have links Oops, it was my adblocking software that blocked it, Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you on experience -- Mark Twain xtravaganza: http://www.xtraverse.co.nr/ http://www.xtraverse.tk/
commanderkeen2318 Meep Posts: 3 (8/1/03 2:30 am) 69.21.12.35 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Endorsement of Keen3D Tyler Mason gave me the OK, so whenever you guys are ready or done creating the Keen 3D game, just give me an e-mail at wkwagner@tds.net or our company e-mail: wm_data_systems@yahoo.com I've always thought Keen should go to 3D. Maybe you can use the Wolfenstein 3D or Blake Stone engine.
Robo Blue Vorticon Elite Posts: 381 (8/1/03 3:08 am) 24.187.190.18 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: Keen 3D *Quote:* Why would that stop them? My first impression was that someone was going to give us actual funding (which would be sure to attract ID's attention). When I saw that was wrong, I assumed they would just be providing webspace. Now its apparently a publicity thing (see here for my opinions about that), and that could attract ID's attention too, but not as harshly as if we were actually selling mods. Official Keenbound Site Edited by: Robo Blue at: 8/1/03 3:09 am
commanderkeen2318 Grunt Posts: 6 (8/1/03 3:52 pm) 69.21.12.129 Reply \| Edit \| Del	I'm giving webspace, actually, on my site. I can partition some webspace off my site, and create links to that file or files.
commanderkeen2318 Grunt Posts: 7 (8/1/03 3:54 pm) 69.21.12.129 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Keen 3D to sell off web We can sell it off web.
Flaose Pooper, King of the Slugs Posts: 1191 (8/1/03 6:29 pm) 68.147.109.142 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: 3D Keen4 You won't be selling anything related to keen, it's completely illegal. -------------------- Cerebral Cortex 314 - For All of your Commander Keen Needs. Eat at Joes
Keenest Grunt Posts: 5 (8/2/03 2:20 pm) 213.46.147.63 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Yes No selling is forbidden. But think about the glory all of you will get! Atleast I hope so! If we only knew where DSL is hiding.
WagnerMasonKeen Grunt Posts: 11 (8/10/03 3:50 pm) 69.21.12.94 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: Keen4 Hey, I could have funding provided. And I just got done creating a Commander Keen Database program to download. Here, go here to get it: Wagner-Mason Data Systems Inc. Downloads Or to directly get the file Commander Keen Database zip file
Keengamer Commander Keen Mad Posts: 696 (8/13/03 3:34 am) 203.123.64.149 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: 3D Keen4 just sent an email to knoffe@swipnet.se hopefully it's DSL
DSL Vortininja Posts: 80 (8/13/03 11:11 pm) 81.226.130.228 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Ok,ok I got the mail :) I would really like to finish the game some time but right now i feel like my time is running to short. But as soon as I feel like i'w got enough time, i'll drop a line here! If some of you could do some models etc to help me when the whole project starts, i would be thankful So, in the meantime, have a nice day
Keengamer Commander Keen Mad Posts: 697 (8/13/03 11:22 pm) 203.123.64.148 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: 3D Keen4 here is a screenshot DSL sent me
XkyRauh2001 Mortimer's Right Hand Man Posts: 601 (8/14/03 1:27 am) 67.94.116.143 Reply \| Edit \| Del	re: keen3d three dimentional level design is always such a bear... best of luck to you in that, DSL :-) my advice would be to check out parts of Crash Bandicoot 3: Warped! and Kirby 64: The Crystal Shards (or something like that) both had a good sense of 2d action in a 3d world. --Xky
KeenRush Garg Posts: 3802 (8/14/03 4:15 am) 212.246.17.130 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: Ok,ok I got the mail :) Wow, really nice pic. Yeah, Bandicoot has great levels. BB - CK - MR. 314
Forge315 Tres-tria quindecim Posts: 1562 (8/16/03 6:16 am) 68.106.138.51 Reply \| Edit \| Del	a B--blaze of 2d and 3D Those two series imo don't have what it takes to make a great 3d-Keen-game, I've played a little bit of each (not those two specifically though) and their just a simple action flick that I'd walk out of the movie theater on. Not meaning to be picky but is it really a sense of 2d action in a 3d world because couldn't you say that the original Keen games had a 3d sense in a 2d world? I don't really mind what way you go with this DSL -- well maybe not the bloody DOOM way -- but the game imo will probably need more than a 2d sense if you want it to thrive as a 3d world.
Robo Blue Vorticon Elite Posts: 498 (8/16/03 8:06 pm) 24.187.190.18 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: re: keen3d IMO, I think it should be designed a little like Mario 64 (mabye not the task thing, but at least the non-fixed level structure and the emphasis on collecting things). Keen could have to collect all 4 (or more) keys to exit the level, but there should be variations to the tasks. Official Keenbound Site Visit The Dos Vault Message Board. I'm an admin Edited by: Robo Blue at: 8/16/03 11:25 pm
KeenRush Photachyon Transceiver Posts: 3825 (8/16/03 8:14 pm) 212.246.17.130 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: Ok,ok I got the mail :) Hmmm, 3D can be real pain in the garg. I still suggest the "original" Keen style; it could be same but just made with 3D. Or maybe different levels or areas would have different movement ability, though, that might be a bit too hard to make/take too much time.
bviper47 Meep Posts: 2 (8/16/03 9:25 pm) 205.188.209.11 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: 3D Keen4 I could probably help because I have been wanting to make a 3d keen to and I own 3d Game Studio also. Edited by: bviper47 at: 8/16/03 9:27 pm
Superadammario64 Vortininja Posts: 129 (8/16/03 11:12 pm) 24.43.217.7 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: re: keen3d Looking good so far.
Robo Blue Vorticon Elite Posts: 500 (8/16/03 11:30 pm) 24.187.190.18 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: Ok,ok I got the mail :) Here's another idea: Keen could have vehicles to travel on! Ok, that would probably take too much time to arrange, but it would be really cool to ride a bounder in 3D . I also have 3D studio max and 3D game studio, so if theres any way I can help, email me at KaptinKrump@netscape.net . Keep in mind that I dont know how to use it, but if anyone has a tutorial, I'll learn and try to help. Official Keenbound Site Visit The Dos Vault Message Board. I'm an admin Edited by: Robo Blue at: 8/16/03 11:34 pm
Djaser Holy Monk Yorp Posts: 1766 (8/17/03 8:48 am) 212.92.76.33 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: 3D Keen4 Good to see you back DSL, great screen -----Djaser est un nation prétendue neutre mais, dans la réalité, il ne l'est pas car il n'arrête pas d'être envahie par les uns et sauvés par les autres. Djaser est normalement régie par une féodalité...-----
KeenRush Photachyon Transceiver Posts: 3828 (8/17/03 12:13 pm) 212.246.17.130 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: re: keen3d Yeah, rideable bounder would be really neat.
DSL Vortininja Posts: 81 (8/17/03 10:14 pm) 81.226.130.228 Reply \| Edit \| Del	... Hmm, let's just stick to what's in the original keen4 oK? that's the whole thing with this project. there will be no doomish 3dshooter. no kind of voilence (except when you fire the neural stunner!) just plain keen4. i will also try to use similar styles of graphics. (like those clouds in keen4. i want to have something that looks as close to the original as possible. not some ultra realistic clouds with lensflares and stuff) but if someone knows how to use 3dgamestudio or could give me tips in the future, i would be happy. i'm still a n00b when it comes to 3dgamestudio.
Robo Blue Vorticon Elite Posts: 510 (8/18/03 1:46 am) 24.187.190.18 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: 3D Keen4 Have you ever heard of NewTek Lightwave 3D? I've seen some pretty incredible stuff done with it, most notably here. Its a site called Digital Blasphemy. Official Keenbound Site Visit The Dos Vault Message Board. I'm an admin
KeenRush Photachyon Transceiver Posts: 3833 (8/18/03 3:44 am) 212.246.17.130 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: re: keen3d That stuff is cool, but not that great.
Vorticon33 Vortininja Posts: 36 (8/18/03 3:20 pm) 68.43.253.81 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Is this a Half-Life mod that would be cool. Is there only gonna be one weapon or more cartoonish stunners and such. there should atleat be a non violent knive equivalent.
Robo Blue Vorticon Elite Posts: 515 (8/18/03 4:23 pm) 24.187.190.18 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: 3D Keen4 Theres always the pogo stick, like in Commander Doom, or maybe Keen can hit enemies with the Neural Stunner when he runs out of ammo. Official Keenbound Site Visit The Dos Vault Message Board. I'm an admin Edited by: Robo Blue at: 8/20/03 4:59 am
duke4e Meep Posts: 3 (8/19/03 10:30 pm) 193.198.138.219 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: keen3d hey DSL, i'll try to create some textures wich will be similar to those in keen 4, so drop me a e-mail, so i can send them to you (when i finish them). my mail: duke4e@yahoo.com
Keenest Grunt Posts: 6 (8/20/03 12:17 am) 213.46.147.63 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: 3dkeen I think you should let keen talk with a real voice in the game. That would be cool. Just find a nice keen voice. I'll be happy to volunteer but I'm not sure if MY voice is very suitable. I just want to do something for this game. I don't know how 3dgamestudio works.
DSL Vortininja Posts: 82 (8/20/03 10:22 am) 81.226.130.228 Reply \| Edit \| Del	... that's great duke4e
KeenRush Photachyon Transceiver Posts: 3850 (8/20/03 3:31 pm) 212.246.17.130 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: keen3d Hmmm, I really wouldn't like to hear anykind of voice of Commander Keen or Mortimer McMire on a fan game. The only right Keen voice would be one that Tom Hall and the gang would use in the next Keen (if it ever comes and if they would use Keen's voice there)..
duke4e Grunt Posts: 4 (8/21/03 1:05 am) 193.198.140.203 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: 3dkeen can someone tell me where to find keen 4 midis (and not the collection of keen midis, but just keen 4 midis)??? cause i'm producing music for more than 4 years, so i'm interested in taking a job for sound producing (music & and every sound including keens voice) + creating textures for keen 3d
Keengamer Commander Keen Mad Posts: 701 (8/21/03 1:25 am) 203.123.64.148 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: 3dkeen i used to have a set of midi's that were imf's but i don't know what happended to them if you contact KeenCommander i'm sure he will do that he did for me
Ilsoap Flect Posts: 724 (8/21/03 3:54 am) 24.67.253.204 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: keen3d So, like... this 3D Keen thing might actually happen? I haven't really been keeping up on this post, but after seeing the Dopefish and Keen, it looks like something workable is at least being attempted. Excellent!
KnuxSpaz Vortininja Posts: 38 (8/21/03 7:28 am) 211.28.96.70 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: 3dkeen Well, I could do some music for it, just give me some time to whip up a demopiece... -KnuxSpaz the Proffesional Maniac ------- My new year's resolution: To give up 2002, PERMANENTLY!
DSL Vortininja Posts: 84 (8/24/03 4:21 pm) 81.226.130.228 Reply \| Edit \| Del	slugvillage tree
KeenRush Photachyon Transceiver Posts: 3913 (8/24/03 4:42 pm) 212.246.17.130 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: keen3d Oh man, that is HOT! Great pic, but I think some trees could be taller, at least it seems to my eye that the trees in Slug Village are quite tall.
DSL Vortininja Posts: 85 (8/24/03 5:02 pm) 81.226.130.228 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: 3dkeen yes yes, this is just one of the trees.
Djaser Holy Monk Yorp Posts: 1797 (8/24/03 5:41 pm) 212.92.76.33 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: slugvillage tree Damn great Download free games on The Dos Vault!!! The Dos Vault forum, guest posting allowed.
Scizor CT Council Janitor Posts: 563 (8/24/03 6:29 pm) 68.18.208.190 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: keen3d D-rool... The eyes could stand to stick out a little more, but very, very nice. What exactly would you need in the way of music? I might do something... My Remixes: Here! Click here!
BlueIllusionX Vortininja Posts: 258 (8/24/03 8:35 pm) 24.207.48.82 Reply \| Edit \| Del	i would like to help I would love to help with 3d graphics, because thats what i am going to do as my future job. (just got my application for university). I just got maya, and i am trying to find some tutorials, if someone could link me to some, i would gladly help make some 3d graphics for you.
DSL Vortininja Posts: 86 (8/24/03 10:20 pm) 81.226.130.228 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: i would like to help check http://www.cgtalk.com/ they have forums with tutorials for everyone and everything
DSL Vortininja Posts: 87 (8/24/03 10:27 pm) 81.226.130.228 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: keen3d since i am a total n00b at 3dgamestudio (ok i made my model run and jump but that's not much) i have no idea how the music works. i would really like to have dynamic music (music that changes in different places/situations) but i was thinking about having the original songs (tweaked). Like in the chasm of chills, I could use the original tune but with more percussion like bongos/whatever. We'll see about that when time comes. Still got a lot of work to do
duke4e Grunt Posts: 10 (8/25/03 2:06 am) 193.198.128.188 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: i would like to help if you want, mail me, cause i can help you with almost everything! duke4e@yahoo.com
Vorticon33 Vortininja Posts: 43 (8/25/03 11:41 am) 68.43.253.81 Reply \| Edit \| Del	AWSOME I was wondering if you are gonna re-create every level or just a few. Plus how are you gonna connnect the levels. Everything looks awsome so far.
DSL Vortininja Posts: 88 (8/25/03 2:14 pm) 81.226.130.228 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: i would like to help duke4e, can you help me with 3dgamestudio? if you know how to make AI and stuff I'm really want you to help me. (cus i'm a n00b ) but when it comes to leveldesign, modeling/texturing and music i think I can do most of it myself. (but help is always welcome)
DSL Vortininja Posts: 89 (8/25/03 2:57 pm) 81.226.130.228 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: AWSOME Vorticon33 wrote: I was wondering if you are gonna re-create every level or just a few. Plus how are you gonna connnect the levels. Everything looks awsome so far. I have no idea of how much you can do with 3dgamestudio but i will do as many levels as i'w got time to. I think it would be cool if you could travel free between the levels of shadowland like in hexen. a saving function would also be great
KeenRush Photachyon Transceiver Posts: 3922 (8/25/03 3:40 pm) 212.246.17.130 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: AWSOME "I think it would be cool if you could travel free between the levels of shadowland" Agree, that would be really neat. Or perhaps you could travel in huge world map, like in Keen 4?
Nickssoft Vortininja Posts: 61 (8/27/03 7:11 pm) 165.247.48.51 Reply \| Edit \| Del	i can help If you want me to help with the music I can. Just what type of music (mid, mp3, wav.etc) also is this keen3d only keen 4? http://www.angelfire.com/ultra/nickssoft/SKF3Install.exe - Super Keen Fighter 3 http://www.angelfire.com/ultra/nickssoft/SKF2Install.exe - Super Keen Fighter 2
DSL Vortininja Posts: 90 (8/29/03 3:51 pm) 81.226.130.228 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: AWSOME I think i have decided to make it as a mod for quake2/whatever instead of using 3dgamestudio. Since i have short of time it would really make the work easier. So, anyone here who has skillz at moding? Wich engine would be most suiteable for a keengame? Any thoughts?
Vorticon33 Vortininja Posts: 45 (8/29/03 9:38 pm) 68.43.253.81 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: AWSOME Use the half-life engine. Very easily moddable. many good tools and tutorials out. Most of all i have half-life . Either way the game is awsome ------------------ www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail.htm www.ctrlaltdel-online.com http://www.outwar.com/page.php?x=1373385
0 UNFLEEXABLE 0 Vorticon Elite Posts: 1005 (8/30/03 1:17 am) 203.26.24.212 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: i can help wow! incredible! this game is bound to qualify for a keen award. except... PLEASE MAKE IT IN 3d games studio. Because i dont have quake, but then i'll have to resort to pirating it. and i dont wanna do that. -- Damn the 1 minute delay! --
TCL999 Vortininja Posts: 257 (8/30/03 2:32 am) 198.82.58.226 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: AWSOME Hey DSL, if you're not going to use 3d game studio, could you send me everything that you've done with it? I might pick up the project sometime if I have time. It's up to you though, I don't really care. Plus that way you can have a backup if you really need it later on. And I don't care what the file size is if you want to send it through e-mail: the benefit of a college LAN tlauver@vt.edu An A through Z interpretation of Commander Keen: The Keencyclopedia
KeenRush Photachyon Transceiver Posts: 3948 (8/30/03 7:48 am) 212.246.17.130 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: AWSOME Yeah, I suggest you to use that 3D game studio too.. It's more cool to have it as real new game.
DSL Vortininja Posts: 91 (8/30/03 10:00 am) 81.226.130.228 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: AWSOME Yeah, that's what i thought. It would take me almost forever to learn 3dgamestudio. Sorry for this. Btw, I the work i have done in 3dgamestudio isn't much at all. I have just made a couple of 3d models. Besides, half life and quake2 are easier to work with. Again i'm terrebly sorry. But it's better to finish the game in some form than not finish it att all right? I promise it will be the same Keenish atmosphere
KeenRush Photachyon Transceiver Posts: 3950 (8/30/03 10:07 am) 212.246.17.130 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: AWSOME Well, there's no worry then. Yeah, and it's better to see them in some form than in not one.
DSL Vortininja Posts: 92 (8/31/03 11:25 am) 81.226.130.228 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: AWSOME Is there any dude here who could help me with seting up this keen mod in Half Life? Where should i start? I have downloaded every tool i think i will need and i really want to start this project right away. If i want to use a custom model (for exampel a slugville tree) how can make Valves Leveleditor use that model? Need some help here!
KeenRush Photachyon Transceiver Posts: 3965 (8/31/03 11:32 am) 212.246.17.130 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: AWSOME I'm sorry, but I don't know anything about that! You could start learning by browsing these pages: www.planethalflife.com/ www.halflife.org/
DSL Vortininja Posts: 93 (8/31/03 12:50 pm) 81.226.130.228 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: AWSOME I'll check that. Hopefully I will finish a testlevel for you all to play. (without monsters, just a walk-around level)
Vorticon33 Vortininja Posts: 46 (9/1/03 12:00 am) 68.43.253.81 Reply \| Edit \| Del	AWSOME collective.valve-erc.com/...?go=hammer you can try here. this will have stuff about Valve ERC Hammer Level Editor. Also if youmade a website and e-mailed planet half-life with some screen shots and telling them your looking for help, they might post it on planet half-life and you might find some help. Also, can you post your commander keen model online? It's ok if you want to keep it only for the game. It would just be cool to play half-life/mods as keen. Keep up the good work.
Vorticon33 Vortininja Posts: 47 (9/1/03 12:03 am) 68.43.253.81 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Models What are you gonna use for modeling? I suggest milkshape 3D. Are you keeping your old models?
DSL Vortininja Posts: 94 (9/1/03 12:36 pm) 81.226.130.228 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: Models I will still use 3dstudio for modeling.
Vorticon33 Vortininja Posts: 48 (9/1/03 2:39 pm) 68.43.253.81 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: AWSOME Do you want all the textures to be like the keen game? ------------------ www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail.htm www.ctrlaltdel-online.com http://www.outwar.com/page.php?x=1373385
DSL Vortininja Posts: 95 (9/1/03 6:06 pm) 81.226.130.228 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: AWSOME Same textures? Ofcourse.
Keengamer Commander Keen Mad Posts: 730 (9/4/03 2:38 am) 203.123.64.149 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: 3D Keen4 DSL are you trying to tell me that you only plan to do a mod instead of your 3d game. if you do decided not to do the game & only a mod i will be disapointed. i understand you know very little about 3dgamestudio & i respect that
DSL Vortininja Posts: 96 (9/4/03 9:34 am) 81.226.130.228 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: 3D Keen4 As I got so little time right now, I feelt that I could save alot of time just doing a mod. Yeah I totaly agree that it's lamer that way. I know how to make models and place them in my own levels in 3dgamestudio. But yet I know nothing about scripting AI and such. But if someone could help me with scripting, I still really want to do the game in 3dgamestudio.
Xtraverse Stranded Fish Posts: 2426 (9/4/03 1:04 pm) 64.30.37.14 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: AWSOME I could take a look at your game and see if I could figure anything out. Of course I'd have to get myself a copy of 3DGameStudio Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you on experience -- Mark Twain spatang.com
DSL Vortininja Posts: 97 (9/4/03 3:42 pm) 81.226.130.228 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: AWSOME There isn't much to show really. It's just one single room with a playable keenmodel. Though this model's animations are playing way to fast and is not able to shoot. Just run around I really haven't spent much time on it yet and i'm sure I can figure out how to make the model shoot and so on. I will try one more time with 3dgamestudio so please have patience. I will drop a line when I'w got stuff to show. I promise.
TCL999 Vortininja Posts: 264 (9/7/03 7:58 pm) 198.82.58.149 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: 3D Keen4 Out of curiousity, which version of 3D gamestudio do you have DSL? I downloaded a copy, but I believe that it's a general version with some of the features not included. An A through Z interpretation of Commander Keen: The Keencyclopedia
DSL Vortininja Posts: 98 (9/7/03 9:36 pm) 81.226.130.228 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: 3D Keen4 PRO
DSL Vortininja Posts: 99 (9/9/03 2:38 pm) 81.226.130.228 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Anouncement OK, here is the deal. I'm getting help by Duke4E. He is willing to help me with scripting AI and stuff. Thankz for the help man!
revolutionbr Vortininja Posts: 33 (9/11/03 8:11 pm) 200.101.96.168 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: 3D Keen4 HEY PEOPLE! I AM BACK!!! Sorry for being away so long but I was getting a new PC and then i lost my EzBoards acct (how stupid! ), but I am here again!!! Hey DSL! how is the project going? Are u really going to use HL engine? If u do so, I will really be glad in making levels for this awesome game! Release a test so I can make some scraps and begin some level! I was preety good in making HL levels! I will just need a fine texture pack, thats all. If u need help DSL, u can contact me at (revolution_br@brturbo.com), i love to help ppl on making maps!
DSL Vortininja Posts: 100 (9/11/03 8:58 pm) 81.226.130.228 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: 3D Keen4 Read the previous posts. I'm going to try 3dgamestudio one more time. Duke4e will help me with scripting and AI
Robo Blue Vorticon Elite Posts: 641 (9/11/03 9:03 pm) 24.187.190.18 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: Anouncement Once you finish with the AI, I could help with the level design (you're going to have to make some alterations for the newer, 3D structure). Official Keenbound Site Visit The Dos Vault Message Board. I'm an admin
revolutionbr Vortininja Posts: 36 (9/11/03 10:35 pm) 200.101.96.168 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: 3D Keen4 thats fine! Is there any other tool to make 3D modellation that can be useful and helpful to Keen 3d?
duke4e Grunt Posts: 12 (9/13/03 12:42 am) 193.198.144.61 Reply \| Edit \| Del	models models that 3d game studio reads: .MDL .MD2 .X .3DS .ASC .WMP Edited by: duke4e at: 9/13/03 12:44 am
0 UNFLEEXABLE 0 Vorticon Elite Posts: 1019 (9/14/03 3:01 am) 203.26.24.212 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: Anouncement Whoa! This project is gonna take a VERY long time to complete. I mean, the project started on 4/21/03 and to this point, all there is, is a playable keen in an empty room. iD could've finished it by now! (i know, i'm exagerrating) i reckon this project (if modded) can be completed mid-late 2004, otherwise with 3dgamesstudio, 2005. still, best of luck to DSL, he really needs to work with someone! -- Damn the 1 minute delay! --
keen online Grunt Posts: 21 (9/14/03 11:00 am) 82.32.49.250 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: 3D Keen4 Of course Id would have finished it by now, they'd have a team of professional programmers and designer, who don't have other responsabilitys such as school or work. If your predictions are right then personally i'd rather spend that extra year making it so that it was my game. So next time 0 UNFLEXABLE 0 please have a little more respect. Commander Keen the Universe is Toast Online, coming soon...
keen online Grunt Posts: 22 (9/14/03 11:42 am) 82.32.49.250 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Contact I know people are going to say that that this should be left to pm instead of posting but the pm isn't working. Anyway, DSL could you e-mail me with a contact address. Commander Keen the Universe is Toast Online, coming soon...
DSL Vortininja Posts: 101 (9/14/03 12:29 pm) 81.226.130.228 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: Anouncement Lol, Ofcourse. This project has taken a very long time indeed. I never said I would work fast. The reason I haven't reach very far is that I haven't spent many hours on the project yet. This is mainly because I needed someone for the scripting. I'm too used to MultimediaFusion's storyboard and eventeditor so I had no idea of where to begin in 3dgamestudio. Project Status so far: I'w talked to duke4e and where planning to make the game in thirdperson (like Tombraider and GTA3) Keen will prolly have health tree hitspoints as health. (it would be too difficult to play with only one hit) The hitspoints are extendable as you pick up some kind of item. (not decided what kind of item) There will be a save/load function You travel between the levels the same way as in keen4 (upper view but in 3d ) Hopefully you can play each level unlimitied amount of time. Every candy will be there. The scoresystem will work in the same way as the old game. You pick up Icecreams, Sodas, Yawbrakers... There will be some kind of music present. Not decided much on that point though. Hopefully the maximum amount of Keen atmosphere!! Edited by: DSL at: 9/14/03 12:29 pm
KeenRush Photachyon Transceiver Posts: 4066 (9/14/03 6:42 pm) 212.246.17.130 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: 3D Keen4 Hmmm, sounds good this far.
Keengamer Commander Keen Mad Posts: 748 (9/18/03 2:08 am) 203.123.64.150 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: 3D Keen4 *Quote:* posted by DSL As I got so little time right now, I feelt that I could save alot of time just doing a mod. Yeah I totaly agree that it's lamer that way. I know how to make models and place them in my own levels in 3dgamestudio. But yet I know nothing about scripting AI and such. But if someone could help me with scripting, I still really want to do the game in 3dgamestudio. hope this has nothing to do with me bullying you eariler, but since you really want to do it 3dgamestudio good luck
pacdan729 Grunt Posts: 29 (9/19/03 4:38 pm) 4.19.248.132 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: 3D Keen4 Sounds Great! I'm sure that even if it takes a while it will still be worth the wait.
BBalazs Grunt Posts: 31 (9/20/03 12:25 pm) 213.163.17.70 Reply \| Edit \| Del	I could help The project is superior! When it's ready, I'll buy as many floppies as needed and take the thing home from the Internet café. Until that I want to help you with anything I can. What I can: - I am a good NFS3 car designer (The car mesh design gave me a BIT practice in 3D designing and the editor can save 3DS files) - Possibly some graphical (NOT MUCH!) - Some paperwork (I mean level structure, etc., not any official stuff)
DSL Vortininja Posts: 102 (9/20/03 12:36 pm) 81.226.130.228 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: I could help That's great. Could you post or link some work you have done? One thing I am thinking about is making prerendered CGcutscenes or an CGintro. Agree it would be cool
thenewmoonsidianX Vortininja Posts: 168 (9/20/03 2:46 pm) 63.164.140.71 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: 3D Keen4 I'd like to help, but I've never touched the studio you're using. I've only used Acknex and I plan to get Jamagic (Clickteam's 3D game studio) later this year. DSL, this game will be awesome if the jerks at id don't shut it down. And if it turns out great, you can do a 3D Keen5 & 6....
Robo Blue Vorticon Elite Posts: 679 (9/20/03 3:37 pm) 24.187.190.18 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: I could help *Quote:* DSL, this game will be awesome if the jerks at id don't shut it down. And if it turns out great, you can do a 3D Keen5 & 6.... Didn't xtra make some 3D models for keens 4-6? Pretty good ones I think. I liked the keen 6 ones the best, as they were cell shaded. Official Keenbound Site Visit The Dos Vault Message Board. I'm an admin
KeenRush Photachyon Transceiver Posts: 4105 (9/20/03 5:52 pm) 212.246.17.130 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: I could help Yeah, he made. But I think those aren't animated, but dunno is that big job to do..
Xtraverse Stranded Fish Posts: 2460 (9/20/03 7:23 pm) 24.48.161.131 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: 3D Keen4 Animation is annoying and tedious, but not too hard. Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you on experience -- Mark Twain spatang.com
DSL Vortininja Posts: 103 (9/20/03 9:19 pm) 81.226.130.228 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: 3D Keen4 thenewmoonsidianX wrote: *Quote:* DSL, this game will be awesome if the jerks at id don't shut it down. They better not... I mean, this is just a way for us to thank ID for making such a wonderful game. I'm absolutely not intending to make any kind of profit out of this. It's just for fun.
duke4e Grunt Posts: 13 (9/23/03 2:00 am) 193.198.128.12 Reply \| Edit \| Del	personal news hi, just wanted to say that i'm having some progress in learning c-script (the programming language of 3d game studio), so you can expect some "major updates" to 3d keen 4 in next few weeks. Edited by: duke4e at: 9/23/03 2:26 am
JosephBurke Tres-tria quindecim Posts: 38 (9/23/03 2:46 am) 68.106.139.158 Reply \| Edit \| Del	ooh
Robo Blue Vorticon Elite Posts: 692 (9/23/03 4:55 am) 24.187.190.18 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: 3D Keen4 ooh yeaaaa now all we need is a cell shaded Keen. That'd be sooo greeeaat. Official Keenbound Site Visit The Dos Vault Message Board. I'm an admin
Snaily Messie Posts: 867 (9/23/03 5:58 am) 213.65.97.229 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: personal news I deem this the most overhyped thread on the forums. ________ ¨@_
DSL Vortininja Posts: 104 (9/23/03 11:09 am) 81.226.130.228 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: personal news Kickass duke4e!
TCL999 Vortininja Posts: 305 (9/23/03 1:13 pm) 198.82.58.149 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: 3D Keen4 *Quote:* I deem this the most overhyped thread on the forums. Agreed. ----------- An A through Z interpretation of Commander Keen: The Keencyclopedia Website of the Week: Vorticon VI
JosephBurke Tres-tria quindecim Posts: 39 (9/23/03 10:19 pm) 68.106.139.158 Reply \| Edit \| Del	not what Awe ... you spoil the mood, I was about to mop the floor.
Robo Blue Vorticon Elite Posts: 694 (9/24/03 4:18 am) 24.187.190.18 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: personal news Don't bother. Just install a drain in the middle of the room. Official Keenbound Site Visit The Dos Vault Message Board. I'm an admin
KeenRush Photachyon Transceiver Posts: 4120 (9/24/03 3:40 pm) 212.246.17.130 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: 3D Keen4 Looks pretty cool!
Grelphy Vorticon Elite Posts: 385 (9/25/03 12:06 am) 199.224.98.193 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: not what Just in case you needed a B-W-B Megarocket. You and all those other mental wimps deserve to die! -Mortimer Mcmire in Commander Keen 3
KeenRush Photachyon Transceiver Posts: 4136 (9/27/03 10:13 am) 81.209.127.28 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Woa! Pretty nice, Grelphy!
DSL Vortininja Posts: 106 (9/27/03 1:11 pm) 81.226.130.228 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: not what Sorry, the Megarocket is allready finished have a look images.deviantart.com/i/2003/39/0/4/Megarocket2.jpg images.deviantart.com/i/2003/39/1/0/Megarocket1.jpg Oh, if the links won't work, try paste them into a new browserwindow. Edited by: DSL at: 9/27/03 2:34 pm
KeenRush Photachyon Transceiver Posts: 4137 (9/27/03 2:41 pm) 81.209.127.28 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: not what Hmmm, I think that's pretty Keenish - it has Keen 4-6 feeling.
Robo Blue Vorticon Elite Posts: 705 (9/27/03 7:19 pm) 24.187.190.18 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: Woa! Pretty cool! IMO, The white out should be more round, though. Official Keenbound Site Visit The Dos Vault Message Board. I'm an admin
Djaser Holy Monk Yorp Posts: 1891 (9/28/03 12:33 pm) 212.92.76.33 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: not what Pics don't work. Download free games on The Dos Vault!!! The Dos Vault forum, guest posting allowed.
CommanderSpleen Vortininja Posts: 42 (9/28/03 1:10 pm) 203.220.175.151 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Woah... I haven't paid much attention to this post for awhile, but from what I see since I've last read it, it's looking good. Especially that 3D rendering of Keen (which now features on my desktop to keep me moving when I run out of Keenergy.) Hope that drain doesn't clog up too quick... >CommanderSpleen ö Cave assectatorem Ductoris Alacris ö "If good men do nothing; Why, that is evil enough." GOOD MORNING SHADALU!
stickmanofdoom Vortininja Posts: 36 (9/28/03 8:40 pm) 24.247.4.253 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: Woa! that looks perfect! Im a little curious about making models with low polygon counts for this game. can you do the boxmodeling thing in rhino 3d? thats the program that i have.
DSL Vortininja Posts: 107 (9/28/03 10:12 pm) 81.226.130.228 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: Woa! Rhino3d is more of a NURBS software. I haven't used Rhino that much but I think is't easier to boxmodeling in software like 3Dstudiomax or Maya.
duke4e Grunt Posts: 16 (9/29/03 11:23 pm) 193.198.130.124 Reply \| Edit \| Del	YOU'LL ALL GONNA LOVE THIS!!!!!!!!! hi guys i think it's time to show you some real screenshots! this pictures aren't from any "official" level of 3d keen 4, they're just from modified version of map you get with 3d game studio. anyway, i think that this screenshots are just so great, and i can only image how great will look the whole game!! Screenshot 1 Screenshot 2 Screenshot 3 Screenshot 4 Screenshot 5 Enjoy... Edited by: duke4e at: 9/29/03 11:27 pm
Robo Blue Vorticon Elite Posts: 720 (9/29/03 11:29 pm) 24.187.190.18 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: Woa! Me= x10^#of pixels in every keen game ever. Must... play... demo... Official Keenbound Site Visit The Dos Vault Message Board. I'm an admin
Flaose Pooper, King of the Slugs Posts: 1310 (9/29/03 11:47 pm) 68.147.109.142 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: Woa! Those are yummy. Now hopefully we'll be able to find some good mappers. -------------------- Cerebral Cortex 314 - For All of your Commander Keen Needs. Eat at Joes
Robo Blue Vorticon Elite Posts: 721 (9/30/03 3:26 am) 24.187.190.18 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: YOU'LL ALL GONNA LOVE THIS!!!!!!!!! I could take a stab at mapping. He presumably wants us to map them like the original Keen4 levels, but in a 3D sense. Official Keenbound Site Visit The Dos Vault Message Board. I'm an admin
Djaser Holy Monk Yorp Posts: 1895 (9/30/03 6:14 am) 212.92.76.33 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: Woa! I don't think this topic is overhyped anymore with these screens. Download free games on The Dos Vault!!! The Dos Vault forum, guest posting allowed.
CommanderSpleen Vortininja Posts: 47 (9/30/03 6:53 am) 203.221.145.158 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: YOU'LL ALL GONNA LOVE THIS!!!!!!!!! This is gonna rock. What's that weird thinggie off to the right in screen four? Woo! 3D Keen! Blarharhar. Hmm... scratch that post about What The Universe Is Toast Should Be Like... should be like this! >Commander Spleen ö Cave assectatorem Ductoris Alacris ö "If good men do nothing; Why, that is evil enough." GOOD MORNING SHADALU!
KeenRush Photachyon Transceiver Posts: 4159 (9/30/03 10:29 am) 212.246.17.130 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: YOU'LL ALL GONNA LOVE THIS!!!!!!!!! Wow, pretty cool!
stickmanofdoom Vortininja Posts: 37 (9/30/03 7:31 pm) 24.247.4.253 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: Woa! that first screen reminds me of mario64. what a conicidence!
Superadammario64 Vortininja Posts: 138 (9/30/03 11:05 pm) 66.185.84.208 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: YOU'LL ALL GONNA LOVE THIS!!!!!!!!! That is the only thing I can say about these screenshots. Funny thing is that these screenshots remind me of jedi outcast in 3rd person mode.
Keengamer Commander Keen Mad Posts: 756 (9/30/03 11:12 pm) 203.123.71.93 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: 3D Keen4 here is what tom said when i emailled him *Quote:* I like the idea of fan games. However, id seems to want to shut them down, since they own the Intellectual Property.
Robo Blue Vorticon Elite Posts: 727 (10/1/03 12:08 am) 24.187.190.18 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: Woa! I wouldnt worry about ID unless you're trying to sell it. Official Keenbound Site Visit The Dos Vault Message Board. I'm an admin
JosephBurke Tres-tria quindecim Posts: 45 (10/1/03 2:06 am) 68.106.139.158 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Moon Stone = iD crapware Yeah that "Myth of the Moon Stone" game seemed to be booking itself as a commercial product even though it wasn't. I don't think they've closed down any other fan games which is good, however we shouldn't mind too much if they do since they have the right to.
lemur821 Vortininja Posts: 40 (10/1/03 9:33 pm) 171.75.220.71 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: 3D Keen4 Looks great already. Is that a lamp in the corner?
revolutionbr Vortininja Posts: 47 (10/1/03 11:07 pm) 200.140.6.177 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: Woa! really nicee!!! i beg u for more screens!
Ilsoap Flect Posts: 762 (10/3/03 5:59 am) 24.67.253.204 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: Moon Stone = iD crapware Say someone made some 3DS files of things that you may be able to use in the game. Where would I - I mean that person - send them? http://www.screenhog.com/
KeenRush Photachyon Transceiver Posts: 4170 (10/3/03 1:35 pm) 212.246.17.130 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: 3D Keen4 Post screens Ilsoap!
duke4e Grunt Posts: 17 (10/3/03 4:15 pm) 193.198.140.55 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: 3D Keen4 you can send your models to: DSL - knoffe@swipnet.se or to me - duke4e@yahoo.com or to both of us
Ilsoap Flect Posts: 765 (10/4/03 12:26 pm) 24.67.253.204 Reply \| Edit \| Del	3D Stuff No screens yet, wanna see if it works first. I'm sending you a 3DS of one of the background huts in Border Village. Let me know if it works okay. http://www.screenhog.com/
Zorath Vortininja Posts: 228 (10/4/03 5:22 pm) 195.165.4.174 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: 3D Keen4 Nice screenies! What program do you make the levels in?
Djaser Holy Monk Yorp Posts: 1910 (10/5/03 11:05 am) 212.92.76.33 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: 3D Keen4 *Quote:* I don't think they've closed down any other fan games which is good, however we shouldn't mind too much if they do since they have the right to. What right do they have to close down fangames? Download free games on The Dos Vault!!! The Dos Vault forum, guest posting allowed.
KeenRush Photachyon Transceiver Posts: 4179 (10/5/03 11:10 am) 212.246.17.130 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: 3D Stuff Because they own the Commander Keen rights.. But closing down some harmless fan games is pretty stupid idea if you ask me; they don't lose any money because of those.
Djaser Holy Monk Yorp Posts: 1912 (10/6/03 7:14 am) 212.92.76.33 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: 3D Keen4 I know they have the rights, but I can't believe they can close down incommercial fangames. After all most of us live in free countries. Download free games on The Dos Vault!!! The Dos Vault forum, guest posting allowed.
Robo Blue Vorticon Elite Posts: 741 (10/6/03 8:45 pm) 24.187.190.18 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: 3D Keen4 If ID gives you trouble, just change the name and pull a microsoft (ie, say that since you designed all the graphics yourself, it doesnt matter HOW much they look like Commander Keen). It's worked before. Official Keenbound Site Visit The Dos Vault Message Board. I'm an admin
DSL Vortininja Posts: 108 (10/6/03 9:18 pm) 81.226.130.228 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: 3D Keen4 Maby, but it would be keen if we called it something else. Ahh wth..
Flaose Pooper, King of the Slugs Posts: 1320 (10/6/03 10:49 pm) 68.147.109.142 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: 3D Keen4 *Quote:* Originally Posted by: Djaser I know they have the rights, but I can't believe they can close down incommercial fangames. After all most of us live in free countries. Just be happy they don't attack fansites too...technically they're illegal too. -------------------- Cerebral Cortex 314 - For All of your Commander Keen Needs. Eat at Joes
KeenRush Photachyon Transceiver Posts: 4183 (10/7/03 3:00 am) 212.246.17.130 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: 3D Keen4 So, this place is a hub of illegal Keen stuff? You criminals. :P
Keenest Grunt Posts: 7 (10/7/03 5:47 pm) 213.46.147.63 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: 3D Keen4 Why hasn't ID thought about making a 3D version of Keen? Obviously lots of people would like it...Maybe they're just too busy with other games
Ilsoap Flect Posts: 768 (10/7/03 6:14 pm) 24.67.253.204 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: 3D Keen4 As far as I know, if Tom Hall had had is way, that's the direction he was planning on taking Keen. He was hoping to have a 3D Keen sometime around 1992-3, with a similar playing style to Mario 64 (which came out a year later). http://www.screenhog.com/
keen online Vortininja Posts: 35 (10/8/03 9:03 am) 82.32.49.250 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: 3D Keen4 tom must have been so depressed when super mario 64 came out Commander Keen the Universe is Toast Online, coming soon...
JosephBurke Tres-tria quindecim Posts: 51 (10/8/03 10:10 am) 68.106.139.158 Reply \| Edit \| Del	yes yes That and he loved playing it I'm sure.
Flaose Pooper, King of the Slugs Posts: 1324 (10/9/03 3:50 am) 68.147.109.142 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: 3D Keen4 Mario 64's awesome. I love that game. -------------------- Cerebral Cortex 314 - For All of your Commander Keen Needs. Eat at Joes
Djaser Holy Monk Yorp Posts: 1920 (10/9/03 6:19 am) 212.92.76.33 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: 3D Keen4 I tried a rom. And didn't really like it....at al. I don't think I would be a Keen fan if Tom made Keen games like SM64 Download free games on The Dos Vault!!! The Dos Vault forum, guest posting allowed.
JosephBurke Tres-tria quindecim Posts: 54 (10/9/03 10:56 am) 68.106.139.158 Reply \| Edit \| Del	yawn... goes to bed How far did you get? The first level is the funnest imo but a lot of the other levels are really cool too. The desert level was another good level, I probably liked it because it was similar to the first level; an open area and a ton of different tasks to take on. One of the hardest levels in the game was the ice level near the end with a snow man; this was the one that was hidden I believe. For those who don't know Mario 64 was very replayable because each level could be beaten several different ways. I don't remember all these ways, maybe someone could help me? But the ones I do remember are: collecting eight hard to get red coins, collecting 100 common gold coins, and there were other ways too.
BBalazs Vortininja Posts: 32 (10/9/03 11:12 am) 213.163.16.63 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Well Well, I would help as I said. You mentioned the Intro? Well, I haven't done any work yet that you have asked for. Another thing is that I said 3d modelling by a very small ability. Well that's VERYERYVERY small, so you'd better just want to ask for some textures and small models, like in the background. I want to help, but I wrote this because I don't want you to give me a big job that I can't finish nicely, then the work will be for nothing and you won't be happy, too. (I suggest). So, I'd be happy to do some /junk/ work (like stars in intro background or smaller textures, or others. So, what's the SMALL job?
0 UNFLEEXABLE 0 Vorticon Elite Posts: 1043 (10/10/03 4:24 am) 203.26.24.215 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: 3D Keen4 *Quote:* So, this place is a hub of illegal Keen stuff? You criminals. I love those screens. I'm only up to looking at the second one, it looks a lot like a tomb raider style pool. (I've only got demos of tomb raiders 1, 2 & 3 ) And Keen Online, i wasn't disrespecting anybody, If DSL wants to make the game on his own, good for him. It was only a suggestion. -- Damn the 1 minute delay! --
thenewmoonsidianX Vortininja Posts: 169 (10/12/03 7:00 pm) 66.137.172.68 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: yawn... goes to bed Great screens! That orangey platform thing really reminds me of Super Mario 64. Can't wait for it to be out! (I know it's too early to be asking for a release date) Keep up the good work! I'd like to help, but at the moment, I don't have any 3D game makers. P.S. There were seven stars in each normal course on Super Mario 64. Five from normal tasks, one from 8 red coins, and one from 100 yellow coins. There were 15 courses, not counting the 3 extra Bowser courses with one hidden star on each. There's also 15 extra miscellaneous stars hidden in the rest of the castle.
duke4e Grunt Posts: 18 (10/13/03 5:01 pm) 193.198.138.38 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: Well thanx for all your comments about those screenshots! i just downloaded mario 64 (just to see how it looks), and i can only say that keen 3d will be 10 times better! a little poll (1): shoud keen have pogo in this 3d version or not? a little poll (2): should the camera be closer or further to player?
Flaose Pooper, King of the Slugs Posts: 1335 (10/13/03 5:26 pm) 68.147.109.142 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: 3D Keen4 1) Only have a pogo if you can make it FEEL proper (like the pogo in the older games). 2) Which screenshot should be used as a basis for this answer? Also, is the the camera tiltable/panable during gameplay? -------------------- Cerebral Cortex 314 - For All of your Commander Keen Needs. Eat at Joes
Dr Villain Vortininja Posts: 58 (10/14/03 1:11 am) 152.163.252.3 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: 3D Keen4 Could You have GameCube Style Camera Control with the Numeric Key Pad?(e.g. Super Mario Sunshine, Windwaker, etc.) Dr.Villain's Evil Emporium Vilains R Us
KeenRush Photachyon Transceiver Posts: 4214 (10/14/03 3:21 am) 212.246.17.130 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: Well Pogo would be neat, not necessary. Yeah, agree with above. It's probably pretty hard to make good and working camera for 3D games, at least that what seems with many many games..
Robo Blue Vorticon Elite Posts: 767 (10/14/03 4:54 am) 24.187.190.18 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: 3D Keen4 IMO, the pogo would be really cool, but only if it was done right. You might remember a really old Playstation game where you played a rabbit (it was on the demo disk that came with the system). I think the pogo engine should feel something like that. Official Keenbound Site Visit The Dos Vault Message Board. I'm an admin
BBalazs Vortininja Posts: 34 (10/21/03 11:22 am) 213.163.17.148 Reply \| Edit \| Del	What's the job? I am waiting for the answer about what will you give me as a job. I would be happy to create some textures. I may also try to model with my ONLY program, Micrografx Simply 3D 3, but it can't save in 3ds format. If anyone has a converter than I would try and work with it, too. What's the job? Let me start it!
lv4n Grunt Posts: 22 (10/23/03 9:25 am) 193.201.243.253 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: Well You can make the pogo optional. For example, If you don't plan to make an openly level with big rooms, you don't have to implement it. In another level, you can make that the player must find a pogo somewhere in the level. My suggestion is that: on every finished level Keen must loose his pogo and he will need to find it again on every next level, where si planned to be one. About the camera. It will be a good idea if a player can control the view distance himself. If this is not possible to make, I prefer a closer, not very, but closer view. ---- All Your Base Are Belong To Us! "We're not here because we're free, we're here because we're not free." Agent Smith, The Matrix Reloaded
Flaose Pooper, King of the Slugs Posts: 1355 (10/23/03 12:46 pm) 68.147.109.142 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: 3D Keen4 Having to find your pogo every time would get very annoying. -------------------- Cerebral Cortex 314 - For All of your Commander Keen Needs. Eat at Joes
keen online Vortininja Posts: 44 (10/23/03 1:06 pm) 62.171.194.36 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: What's the job? agree Keen says: Visit the keen archive for all you keen needs.
RoboRed Shikadi Security Guard Posts: 385 (10/23/03 9:51 pm) 63.224.171.10 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: Well A 3D Keen game!?!?! That sounds so totally awesome! RoBoReD Over and out. FEEB!!!
revolutionbr Vortininja Posts: 49 (10/24/03 5:41 pm) 200.181.82.110 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: 3D Keen4 when will ya post more screens??? And a playable DEMO? I work with video edition (amateur) and I have experience in making game videos (did only for home ones). I can make a video preview if i get a demo. What do ya think?
Djaser Holy Monk Yorp Posts: 1947 (10/24/03 6:46 pm) 212.92.76.33 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: Well Things like that take time and I'd rather see him spending his rare sparetime at creating the game ----------------- Sinterklaas and Djaser hate Santa Claus!!!! Download free games on The Dos Vault!!! The Dos Vault forum, guest posting allowed.
memsys Meep Posts: 1 (10/26/03 8:38 pm) 212.142.15.102 Reply \| Edit \| Del	tooooooooo big looks very good , except the helmet is too big Well I am new here so I don't know all of you guys by the way I am busy with a commender keen game and if you guys got some ideas mail me please at memsyszero_3@hotmail.com Edited by: memsys at: 10/26/03 8:41 pm
JosephBurke Tres-tria quindecim Posts: 91 (10/27/03 8:40 am) 68.106.139.158 Reply \| Edit \| Del	a new member (no not me) People will probably want to see a little something before they volunteer any help. Welcome to the forum though, memsys.
memsys Meep Posts: 2 (10/27/03 8:58 am) 212.142.15.103 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: a new member well I don't know how to paste a picture if you want to See it give m your email OK Edited by: memsys at: 10/27/03 9:31 am
KeenRush Photachyon Transceiver Posts: 4290 (10/27/03 4:53 pm) 212.246.17.130 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: Well Hi, and welcome! You need to upload pics somewhere and then post a link here (or use those ezBoard image code tags). Search with "uploading" from the "net".
memsys Meep Posts: 3 (10/27/03 5:37 pm) 212.142.15.103 Reply \| Edit \| Del	I don't get it I don't get it and its kind of amercing by the way tanks KeenRush Edited by: memsys at: 10/27/03 5:50 pm
Yowza Vortininja Posts: 141 (10/30/03 9:53 am) 203.173.22.86 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: tooooooooo big *Quote:* except the helmet is too big It's meant to be too big, it's his older brother's helmet.
Captin Shmit Grunt Posts: 4 (11/3/03 2:42 am) 24.47.16.148 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: 3D Keen4 this is clearly the most popular topic on this site and this subject is just too darn big for a little forum. I think you should start some sort of site that has screens, and maybe a DEMO and some important info about it because i just cant keeep track of how the game's doing any more!! WE WANT MORE SCREEN SHOTS! lol Edited by: Captin Shmit at: 11/3/03 2:43 am
Robo Blue Vorticon Elite Posts: 781 (11/3/03 3:06 am) 24.187.190.18 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: I don't get it eh, I think he should release a one level demo, and then focus completely on completing the project (rather than making tons of screens). I know I'd be more satisfied if most of the game remained a mystery until it was released in it's entirety. Official Keenbound Site Visit The Dos Vault Message Board. I'm an admin
keen online Vortininja Posts: 67 (11/3/03 10:15 am) 62.171.194.8 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: tooooooooo big If dsl and everyone else involved is ok with it, i'll make a site, that way you don't take time out of making the game to do a site, thats if you want a site. Keen says: Visit the keen archive for all you keen needs.
Manboy Vortininja Posts: 131 (11/9/03 12:36 pm) 203.61.5.165 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Someone actually want this fish? Eh...does anyone want this fish I've made? It's all zipped up and ready to go. Someone give me an email adress I can ship off a 500 k zip file to and I'll send it away.
memsys Grunt Posts: 28 (11/9/03 7:36 pm) 212.142.15.102 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: I don't get it ok memsyszero_3@hotmail.com
TCL999 Vorticon Elite Posts: 351 (11/9/03 8:53 pm) 198.82.58.144 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: tooooooooo big I believe Manboy is talking about the Keen 3D team... ----------- An A through Z interpretation of Commander Keen: The Keencyclopedia... currently being ported over and redone to spatang.com, be patient. Current Release Date: 11-30-03 Website of the Week: Keen Online
Robo Blue Vorticon Elite Posts: 796 (11/10/03 4:00 am) 24.187.190.18 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: Someone actually want this fish? How many people are currently working on Keen4-3D? Official Keenbound Site Visit The Dos Vault Message Board. I'm an admin
Vorticon33 Vortininja Posts: 50 (11/16/03 1:23 pm) 68.43.253.81 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: Someone actually want this fish? *Quote:* How many people are currently working on Keen4-3D? Doesnt seem like to many Robo Blue ------------------ www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail.htm www.ctrlaltdel-online.com http://www.outwar.com/page.php?x=1373385
Snaily Messie Posts: 897 (11/16/03 4:35 pm) 213.65.97.229 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: tooooooooo big Nope. ________ ¨@_
Djaser Holy Monk Yorp Posts: 1989 (11/16/03 6:34 pm) 212.92.76.33 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: Someone actually want this fish? And it's (again) a month ago when the project leader visited the forums for the last time. ----------------- Sinterklaas and Djaser hate Santa Claus!!!! Download free games on The Dos Vault!!! The Dos Vault forum, guest posting allowed.
Robo Blue Vorticon Elite Posts: 822 (11/18/03 11:34 pm) 24.187.190.18 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: Someone actually want this fish? Let's be patient, as this is bound to be over a year in the making (if it's good). He's probably really busy with his school/job/life. Official Keenbound Site Visit The Dos Vault Message Board. I'm an admin
Vorticon33 Vortininja Posts: 52 (11/22/03 12:11 am) 68.43.253.81 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: tooooooooo big true ------------------ www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail.htm www.ctrlaltdel-online.com http://www.outwar.com/page.php?x=1373385
Djaser Holy Monk Yorp Posts: 2018 (11/23/03 12:37 pm) 212.92.76.33 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: Someone actually want this fish? I'm just jealous ----------------- Sinterklaas and Djaser hate Santa Claus!!!! Download free games on The Dos Vault!!! The Dos Vault forum, guest posting allowed.
DSL Vortininja Posts: 109 (12/13/03 4:34 pm) 81.226.151.168 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: hey guys and girls ok, i promise i will finish this project. right now i'm very short of time. hope you are reading this duke4e, i send everyone a note when this project starts for real i promise
duke4e Grunt Posts: 19 (12/14/03 3:07 pm) 195.29.60.31 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: tooooooooo big of course i'm reading this i was offline for few weeks, but now i'm back btw. if anyone is interested in checking out what i'm doing (for some time now), go to Redlaine. It's my musical solo project. It's still unfinished, vocals need to be recorded and many much stuff needs to be finished...
KeenRush Photachyon Transceiver Posts: 4563 (12/14/03 3:57 pm) 212.246.17.130 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: Someone actually want this fish? Hey, good to hear that. Oh, and cool music there, keep up the good work! "For years they studied, collected, catalogued. When they had learned all that they could, they began to modify." 3001: The final Odyssey
DSL Vortininja Posts: 111 (12/18/03 3:31 pm) 81.226.151.168 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: hey guys and girls mushroomsoup anyone?
keen online Vortininja Posts: 201 (12/18/03 4:01 pm) 82.32.49.250 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: tooooooooo big cool Keen says: Visit keen online for all you keen needs.
KeenRush Photachyon Transceiver Posts: 4586 (12/18/03 4:23 pm) 212.246.17.130 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: Someone actually want this fish? LOL, mushroom soup! Very clever! Oh, and that looks awesome - scary, mad and freaky at the same time, just like the original! "For years they studied, collected, catalogued. When they had learned all that they could, they began to modify." 3001: The final Odyssey
Robo Blue Vorticon Elite Posts: 914 (12/18/03 11:22 pm) 24.187.190.18 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: hey guys and girls WHOA! that thing looks AWESOME! Now all it needs is a little smoothing over and... Official Keenbound Site Visit #dosgamers on irc.mircx.com!
Keengamer Commander Keen Mad Posts: 886 (12/19/03 12:41 am) 203.123.69.211 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: hey guys and girls *Quote:* ok, i promise i will finish this project. that's great DSL where are u gonna release a demo nice one, since this topic has 20 pages, could DSL or someone else make a list of 3d images for the game that has been done so far btw: where can i find 3dgamesstudio? how hard is it to use? how much is the registration fee
DSL Vortininja Posts: 112 (12/19/03 2:05 am) 81.226.151.168 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: hey guys and girls *Quote:* WHOA! that thing looks AWESOME! Now all it needs is a little smoothing over and... nah, i don't think it need smoothing when you see things in motion you won't notice i mean look at this doom3model, as i said when you see it in motion you won't notice www.doom3.dk/screenshots/qcon1.jpg
DSL Vortininja Posts: 113 (12/19/03 2:07 am) 81.226.151.168 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: hey guys and girls *Quote:* where can i find 3dgamesstudio? how hard is it to use? how much is the registration fee check www.3dgamestudio.com/
Keengamer Commander Keen Mad Posts: 892 (12/19/03 2:15 am) 203.123.69.210 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: hey guys and girls thanks but u didn't tell me how hard it is to use
Robo Blue Vorticon Elite Posts: 916 (12/19/03 2:28 am) 24.187.190.18 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: hey guys and girls It's very hard to use if you haven't had any experience using 3D modeling software. Take it from me. Official Keenbound Site Visit #dosgamers on irc.mircx.com!
Keengamer Commander Keen Mad Posts: 896 (12/19/03 2:32 am) 203.123.69.210 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: hey guys and girls thanks robo blue [Edited by Cho'gall: Removed some totally off-topic stuff] Edited by: chogall at: 12/19/03 3:13 pm
JosephBurke Tres-tria quindecim Posts: 190 (12/19/03 6:02 am) 68.106.139.158 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Good pic'. Wonderful! beams of disbelief
Djaser Holy Monk Yorp Posts: 2102 (12/19/03 10:41 am) 212.92.76.33 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: hey guys and girls Wow, this one is definetly better than the slug. ----------------- Santa has conquered the Netherlands. Download free games on The Dos Vault!!! The Dos Vault forum, guest posting allowed.
DSL Vortininja Posts: 114 (12/19/03 11:24 am) 81.226.151.168 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: hey guys and girls *Quote:* thanks but u didn't tell me how hard it is to use oh sorry, i blame my tiredness for not answering yesterday anyway, i find 3dgamestudio pretty hard to learn (since i'm a beginner to programing and using that software) but i'm pretty experienced to modeling. I can tell both parts are hard to learn so i wish you good luck if you decide to start
thenewmoonsidianX Vortininja Posts: 173 (12/19/03 6:14 pm) 63.164.140.71 Reply \| Edit \| Del	A Keen4 3D website If DSL, duke4e, and the rest are interested, I could put up a Keen4 3D website that has all the screenshots, models and progress so far. My only question is this: do you want the site in Geocities or Freewebs, because I can do either. If I do, I'm missing the shots of Keen walking, the shot of Keen in a sort of gray brick room, and the tree-with-face (I can't get them because they don't display on this topic anymore; all that comes up is the little X window) P.S. Awesome mushroom.
KeenRush Photachyon Transceiver Posts: 4594 (12/19/03 6:23 pm) 212.246.17.130 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: hey guys and girls A site would be nice! I suggest you to ask xtra, maybe he could host you at spatang.com, since he is hosting Keen sites. "For years they studied, collected, catalogued. When they had learned all that they could, they began to modify." 3001: The final Odyssey
duke4e Grunt Posts: 21 (12/19/03 7:33 pm) 195.29.57.69 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: hey guys and girls i'll make a webpage (i've got some free space for my stuff) and i'll let you know when it's going to be finished
JosephBurke Tres-tria quindecim Posts: 192 (12/19/03 9:31 pm) 68.106.139.158 Reply \| Edit \| Del	what? There was a tree shot?
KeenRush Photachyon Transceiver Posts: 4597 (12/19/03 9:35 pm) 212.246.17.130 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: hey guys and girls Yep (if I remember correct), and it was looking pretty good too. "For years they studied, collected, catalogued. When they had learned all that they could, they began to modify." 3001: The final Odyssey
DSL Vortininja Posts: 115 (12/19/03 10:14 pm) 81.226.151.168 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: 3D Keen4 pardon me but geocities and that sort of hosting is kinda bad. if there is too much traffic, the whole site will be unavailable for about an hour... i suggest you find another hosting
keen online Vortininja Posts: 204 (12/20/03 12:08 am) 82.32.49.250 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: what? i'll host it on keen online if you want Keen says: Visit keen online for all you keen needs.
Xtraverse Stranded Fish Posts: 2600 (12/20/03 1:30 am) 69.162.185.136 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: hey guys and girls boing what content will this website have? Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you on experience -- Mark Twain spatang.com Edited by: Xtraverse at: 12/20/03 1:30 am
KeenRush Photachyon Transceiver Posts: 4600 (12/20/03 1:52 pm) 212.246.17.130 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: 3D Keen4 Probably screenshots, info and pics of those models. "For years they studied, collected, catalogued. When they had learned all that they could, they began to modify." 3001: The final Odyssey
thenewmoonsidianX Vortininja Posts: 174 (12/23/03 10:17 pm) 63.164.140.71 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: What? So, do you want me to do it, or should I just sit back and let somebody else do it? P.S. Yes, there was a tree shot.
duke4e Grunt Posts: 22 (12/23/03 11:31 pm) 195.29.137.39 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: hey guys and girls no offense to anyone, but are you blind??? read my previous post (it's on this page!!) I'LL MAKE A WEBPAGE! i've got some "normal" (not geocities or something like that) webspace, so i'll upload it there. currently, there is nothing to put on that page (except few screenshots wich were all available on this post), so it'll have to wait until we develop 3d keen into some kind of beta or something
Djaser Holy Monk Yorp Posts: 2124 (12/23/03 11:40 pm) 212.92.76.33 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: 3D Keen4 Take a deep breath and calm down. ----------------- Santa has conquered the Netherlands. Download free games on The Dos Vault!!! The Dos Vault forum, guest posting allowed.
duke4e Grunt Posts: 23 (12/24/03 1:23 am) 195.29.62.145 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: What? MERRY CHRISTMAS & HAPPY NEW YEAR
JosephBurke Tres-tria quindecim Posts: 205 (12/24/03 2:58 am) 68.106.139.158 Reply \| Edit \| Del	tad thenewmoonsidianX said he'd make the page first duke4e.
lemur821 Vortininja Posts: 104 (12/24/03 6:05 am) 65.57.63.54 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: 3D Keen4 Those are some good looking screens.
memsys Vortininja Posts: 71 (12/24/03 8:42 am) 212.142.15.101 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: What? MERRY CHRISTMAS & HAPPY NEW YEAR
Djaser Holy Monk Yorp Posts: 2126 (12/24/03 9:17 am) 212.92.76.33 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: tad Geez, Memsys did you get what the said Anyway awesome screens, DSL should wish us merry christmas too ----------------- Santa has conquered the Netherlands. Download free games on The Dos Vault!!! The Dos Vault forum, guest posting allowed.
KeenRush Photachyon Transceiver Posts: 4632 (12/24/03 9:20 am) 212.246.17.130 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: 3D Keen4 Agree; wow! "For years they studied, collected, catalogued. When they had learned all that they could, they began to modify." 3001: The final Odyssey
duke4e Grunt Posts: 24 (12/24/03 11:32 am) 195.29.58.96 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: tad thenewmoonsidianX can make a fan page for our project, but since dsl and i are currently only people in 3d keen 4 team, one of us will make an official page (when we're gonna need it)
DSL Vortininja Posts: 118 (12/26/03 1:35 pm) 81.226.151.168 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: tad merry and a new year everyone!
thenewmoonsidianX Vortininja Posts: 175 (12/28/03 7:54 pm) 63.208.44.137 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: 3D Keen4 Whoa whoa whoa! Calm down duke4e! I'm only trying to help. If you want to do all the website-making yourself, that's fine. I'll back off. By the way, nice screenshots. Are those official Keen levels?
Djaser Holy Monk Yorp Posts: 2136 (12/28/03 9:18 pm) 212.92.76.33 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: tad No they are used for an unfinished Keen fangame, it's a 3d remake of Keen 4 ----------------- Santa has conquered the Netherlands. Download free games on The Dos Vault!!! The Dos Vault forum, guest posting allowed.
duke4e Grunt Posts: 25 (12/29/03 1:05 am) 195.29.131.164 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: tad to thenewmoonsidianX: i have nothing against you or a 3d keen webpage, but it's still too early to make one. i sad that you can make unofficial one (fan page). just imagine that i need to post some news & few screenshots on 3d keen webpage: first i need to mail you that stuff, and then you have to find some time to check you mail, and then you need to upload it... or (if dsl or i whould be webmaster for the same page): we whould just upload. get it? you can make unofficial 3d keen page right away. i don't have anything against that (or you)!!!! btw. those screens are from imported keen map for duke 3d (wich i created few months ago). those screens still haven't got to do anything with 3d keen we are planing to do l8 dude
dudemancam Grunt Posts: 8 (12/29/03 1:42 am) 68.92.246.116 Reply \| Edit \| Del	CAN'T WAIT FOR 3D KEEN after reading some of tese posts i am very excited about the 3d keen coming out, i only have one concern, where will i find it when it comes out, because i am a newb when it comes to getting these games and making them work. CDP
duke4e Grunt Posts: 26 (12/29/03 1:10 pm) 195.29.137.170 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: tad just stick to this forum, cause you guys will be first to know when it comes out
dudemancam Grunt Posts: 9 (12/29/03 2:29 pm) 68.90.163.225 Reply \| Edit \| Del	TY ok, awsome, ty
0 UNFLEEXABLE 0 Vorticon Elite Posts: 1128 (1/15/04 2:51 am) 203.26.24.216 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: CAN'T WAIT FOR 3D KEEN *Quote:* ok, i promise i will finish this project. Well that's a relief! Wow, that mushroom likes so tasty, almost like play-doh! I agree that it's too early to make a site, i mean, 3D realms made a whole lot of Duke Nukem 4eva movies and pics, and now they're removed because they no longer resemble the game God only knows how many times they've probably remade that unfinished DNF game! Family, Religion, Friendship. These are the three demons you must slay if you wish to succeed in business! - Charles Montgomery Burns
KeenRush Photachyon Transceiver Posts: 4803 (1/15/04 5:09 am) 212.246.17.130 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: tad I'm sure when they have finished all the work they start to think they should switch to some better engine.. "For years they studied, collected, catalogued. When they had learned all that they could, they began to modify." 3001: The final Odyssey
0 UNFLEEXABLE 0 Vorticon Elite Posts: 1135 (1/15/04 9:37 am) 203.26.24.216 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: TY of course, I mean, you wouldnt wanna wait around 8 years for a game and see a Duke Nukem 3Dish game that you've paid like $50US for. Although DOOM3 will be released "When It's Done", they are taking pre-orders, and so far, the set (but unaccurate) release date is 3/14. Family, Religion, Friendship. These are the three demons you must slay if you wish to succeed in business! - Charles Montgomery Burns
KeenRush Photachyon Transceiver Posts: 4810 (1/15/04 5:30 pm) 212.246.17.130 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: CAN'T WAIT FOR 3D KEEN ^ Really? LOL, I wonder do they even notice that Keen related thing on the date.. "For years they studied, collected, catalogued. When they had learned all that they could, they began to modify." 3001: The final Odyssey
Djaser Holy Monk Yorp Posts: 2250 (1/16/04 1:46 pm) 212.92.76.33 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: tad Doom en Shadowland III on the same day sweet ----------------- Download free games on The Dos Vault!!! The Dos Vault forum, guest posting allowed.
0 UNFLEEXABLE 0 Vorticon Elite Posts: 1156 (1/16/04 10:56 pm) 203.26.24.216 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: TY i dunno, i don't even think Ilsoap started on shadowlands III yet. Or he might have almost finished it but is pretending not to! I guess we will find out on 3/14! DOOM III might be released on 3/14 as far as I know, but I don't think it's an official release date. But it should be released this year, to say the least. Family, Religion, Friendship. These are the three demons you must slay if you wish to succeed in business! - Charles Montgomery Burns
Creative madman Meep Posts: 1 (1/17/04 6:21 am) 211.29.136.12 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Half-Life would this Be wise i have been considering making a 3D keen game myself until i came across this page. i read the first 5 pages and the last 2 so i dont know what ive missed but. if the game was going to be a mod of HL make it a Mod of HL2 because half life is retro now evan as it is the best game ever made (except mabye Commander Keen). i am also a decent webpage maker i also have Dreamweaver 2003 MX ( i have a .... Freind.... in the softwere buisness) so i would be happy to make a website (with a side bar ) and to the people that say a 3D keen wont be a hit ur a joke and i hate you Creative Madness Productions
Creative madman Meep Posts: 2 (1/17/04 6:25 am) 211.29.136.12 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Webpage i just remembered that i forgot to add Geocities is a pile of Excrement and go tripod oh and how mad is this little dude >
Snaily Messie Posts: 953 (1/17/04 12:48 pm) 213.65.97.229 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: Half-Life would this Be wise *Quote:* and to the people that say a 3D keen wont be a hit ur a joke and i hate you engage sarcastic voice Welcome! ________ ¨@_
Creative madman Grunt Posts: 4 (1/17/04 1:45 pm) 211.29.136.12 Reply \| Edit \| Del	reply wats with the sarcasim im serious as if you wouldent like a 3D Commander keen
Creative madman Grunt Posts: 5 (1/17/04 1:51 pm) 211.29.136.12 Reply \| Edit \| Del	(none) i was being sarcastic when i said i hate you i mean come on im an Austrailian sarcasms 2nd nature
Xtraverse Stranded Fish Posts: 2658 (1/17/04 5:20 pm) 69.162.185.136 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: Half-Life would this Be wise Well..it's an odd way to introduce yourself to the board Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you on experience -- Mark Twain spatang.com
KeenRush Photachyon Transceiver Posts: 4832 (1/17/04 6:03 pm) 212.246.17.130 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: reply Heh heh, good way. "For years they studied, collected, catalogued. When they had learned all that they could, they began to modify." 3001: The final Odyssey
0 UNFLEEXABLE 0 Vorticon Elite Posts: 1173 (1/18/04 2:29 am) 203.26.24.216 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: (none) *Quote:* i was being sarcastic when i said i hate you i mean come on im an Austrailian sarcasms 2nd nature {Ack! Ack!} Family, Religion, Friendship. These are the three demons you must slay if you wish to succeed in business! - Charles Montgomery Burns
Creative madman Grunt Posts: 10 (1/18/04 5:57 am) 211.29.136.12 Reply \| Edit \| Del	anybody working on this to any body workin on this feel free to use my forum or chat room cuz nobody else uses em My Chat Room My Forum
0 UNFLEEXABLE 0 Vorticon Elite Posts: 1244 (1/23/04 7:35 am) 203.26.24.213 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: (none) I don't think it helps to copy/paste that same message into a new thread. Family, Religion, Friendship. These are the three demons you must slay if you wish to succeed in business! - Charles Montgomery Burns
Nickssoft Vortininja Posts: 103 (2/25/04 12:48 am) 165.247.42.176 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: 3D Keen4 Its been almost a month since the last post. Is this game discontinued? Any new News?
Xtraverse Stranded Fish Posts: 2786 (2/25/04 4:39 am) 69.162.175.74 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: anybody working on this It takes time to make a game. Wouldn't it be better if they didn't post constant updates and in a year surprised us with something awesome? Some people are pragmatists, taking things as they come and making the best of the choices available. Some people are idealists, standing for principle and refusing to compromise. And some people just act on any whim that enters their heads. I pragmatically turn my whims into principles. -- Calvin spatang.com
KeenRush Photachyon Transceiver Posts: 5122 (2/25/04 8:09 am) 81.209.122.206 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: 3D Keen4 That question has been asked once a while, or at least something like that, and always sometimes some of them has come and posted some news and pics. "For years they studied, collected, catalogued. When they had learned all that they could, they began to modify." 3001: The final Odyssey
duke4e Grunt Posts: 33 (2/26/04 12:53 am) 193.198.144.147 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: (none) ok guys, heres the deal: DSL and myself are pretty busy with school/work, so we won't do any major things until summer. then we'll start doing the real stuff, so you can expect a demo later this summer... as for now, we have few textures and few models... also, we're considering switching from 3dgame studio to darkbasic because it gives you complete control of anything, and also has better graphics engine. sorry for bad news, but you won't be disappointed once the game is done! l8er guys
Djaser Holy Monk Yorp Posts: 2373 (2/26/04 2:37 pm) 212.92.76.33 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: anybody working on this I pity the many people who are busy with school all their life Anyway I hope you got still got the inspiration in the summer to make the game. It's difficult to start again. ----------------- Download free games on The Dos Vault!!! The Dos Vault Forum is BACK!!! And it's here to stay.
BBalazs Vortininja Posts: 42 (2/26/04 3:55 pm) 62.77.206.118 Reply \| Edit \| Del	That's right I agree with Djaser, it is definately hard to restart, but once you are up to it again, it is easy to continue. I'd say you work half an hour or a bit more on the game every day, so it won't take much time away, but still keep you "on screen". I'm doing the same on the 3rd part of my game, and I'll hop to start this portion of the day once I've posted this message.
KeenRush Photachyon Transceiver Posts: 5144 (2/26/04 10:07 pm) 212.246.17.130 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: (none) Hmmm, I hope DB can use those models you've made, in case it can't, I'm sure there are some tools that can change those 3D things from format to another.. I know the feeling when stuff keeps busy.. I've got only one message for you: ++++++++[>+++++++++<-]>+++.------..+++++++++.
TCL999 Vorticon Elite Posts: 390 (2/26/04 10:16 pm) 198.82.58.144 Reply \| Edit \| Del	DB Woot! Dark Basic! Ya, you do have more power with that program Learning the code is the only hard part. I'll I've gone through was the tutorials and then I got bored or busy and haven't touched it in forever.
0 UNFLEEXABLE 0 aka Silly the Ghost Posts: 1489 (2/27/04 7:19 am) 203.26.24.211 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: That's right wonderful! a demo is coming soon! *Quote:* Its been almost a month since the last post. actually nick, it's been little over a month once you posted that message! > Hello Kiddies! I'm Silly the Ghost!
DSL Vortininja Posts: 120 (3/4/04 3:14 pm) 81.226.151.168 Reply \| Edit \| Del	whatever... eya, yes it has been a long time since the last news ofcourse feel free do give comments, thoughts, suggestions, whatever (not spam though ) here in this thread! we apriciates suggestions about cool features ect cool things i have been thinking of (we'll see if duke4e can make it possible in darkbasic (i'm sure he can)) remixes of the old gamemusics, sort of new "versions" of them dynamic music trigged by would be cool, but we'll see about what suits best (don't want to ruin the classic feeling) cg-cutscenes, yes folkes it would be neat having the intro/cutscenes in pre-rendered 3d! besides intro/outro there could be cutscenes for every levels, sort of presentations of the levels and how keen enters them. they should be funny ofcourse. only thing we need is voiceactors because my voice doesn't suit well for either commander keen or the others. *traveling in a free world, means that you travel through shadowland from a firstperson perspective only and there is no level select map you walk around in. so if you are playing Miragia and want to go to the Well Of Wishes, you have to go through a number of levels to reach it... Tell me what you think about it any thoughs about the pogo? i would love to see it in the game but the question is, would it be easy to controll in 3d?? this project is certainly not dead to plz speak your thoughts now!
CommanderSpleen Vortininja Posts: 213 (3/4/04 10:15 pm) 210.15.242.68 Reply \| Edit \| Del	likes sound of plan Oom. Classy. I'm especially intrigued by the prospect of no level select map. Making Keen retrace his steps in order to get from one 'later' part of the world to another area would certainly put a new spin on the game. Perhaps there could be enemies wandering around in the non-level areas, along with some bonus points and such. Could be interesting, but it might lead the game away from the original concept a bit too much. Cut scenes would rock. Especially at the end of levels where council members are hidden. Though start/end sequences for all levels might not fit in quite as well if the world is completely free-roaming and there's no defined start or end to some of the levels. But at least giving the player an overview of the level in advance (perhaps a BwB's-eye-view of some sort, swooping in to reveal particular dangers and a few key areas) would be effective. I presume there'll be cut scenes at the start and end of the game. Seeing the Keen4 introduction and ending sequence animated in full 3D would rock. Definitely work in the pogo, regardless of whether it's inherently easy to use. I'd be willing to put in some extra time learning to control it if that's what it takes to play a really Keenish 3D game. As for remixing the game music, definitely go ahead. Although it may require a number of different loops for each song, rather than short one minute songs, in order to keep some of the remixing from becoming too repetitive (and of course hearing the original music extended into full-lenght songs would be classy in and of itself). Can you elaborate on "dynamic music trigged by would be cool"? If you're talking about using one basic loop and creating an algorithm to add in some variation here and there, mixing in some other bits and pieces to keep the repetitive nature to a minimum, that would rock. Anyway, those are my thoughts. >Commander Spleen ö Cave assectatorem Ductoris Alacris ö "Keep thy heart (imagination) with all diligence, for out of it are the issues of life." Proverbs 4:23 JimSoft Lair http://jimsoftlair.tripod.com/
thenewmoonsidianX Vortininja Posts: 220 (3/4/04 10:39 pm) 63.164.140.71 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: That's right *Quote:* dynamic music trigged by would be cool I think what he means is like the iMUSE (Interactive Music) System used in old Lucasarts adventure games where the music tune could change anywhere in the course of the midi. Don't know how you could do it though, but it would be cool. What exactly is the stage that the project is in right now? How far into the game?
DSL Vortininja Posts: 121 (3/5/04 12:55 am) 81.226.151.168 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: That's right Just some thoughts, some 3dmodels and programing in 3dgamestudio (i'm sure that duke4e has started testing darkbasic out since we are changing engine) pretty much there is right now i want to feel i'm almost totaly free from other works to start this project. i feel i have to finish school first
Joe Capricorn Grunt Posts: 24 (3/5/04 2:32 am) 68.82.216.89 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: likes sound of plan Looks like my game, Commander Keen Andromeda would have to tide you guys over until then, eh? A lesson in Ascillan: In the Dawn of a new age "Hu beikacho-yon xa beidhakyo-yut." In an eternal quest for world peace. "Hu ebe'et sayboo'lin-yut yyk choo'i-yon." Will you be my friend? "Chi choo'zilli xa ut kle?"
KeenRush Photachyon Transceiver Posts: 5193 (3/5/04 5:21 am) 212.246.17.130 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: That's right Sounds rrreally interesting. That free level system sounds awesome, so does the music stuff if you manage to do it. I've got only one message for you: ++++++++[>+++++++++<-]>+++.------..+++++++++.
duke4e Grunt Posts: 34 (3/5/04 7:12 am) 193.198.144.231 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: That's right as for the music, both of us (dsl & me) know to work in fl studio, so there will be no problem. if you want, you can check my bands page (http://www.redlaine.tk/) and hear what can i make with fl studio + guitar + vocals. it sounds pretty much like linkin park... as for the programming, i was 16th on Croatias qbasic programming contest, so that talks for itself pretty much (pretty hard to go on country based contest!). programming in 3d is new to me, but i think i can handle it...
0 UNFLEEXABLE 0 aka Silly the Ghost Posts: 1528 (3/5/04 7:51 am) 203.26.24.217 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: likes sound of plan can't wait! Once I get a new computer, I want to work on a Commander Keen expansion pack for the Sims! > Hello Kiddies! I'm Silly the Ghost!
DSL Vortininja Posts: 122 (3/5/04 4:08 pm) 81.226.151.168 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: likes sound of plan *Quote:* can't wait! Once I get a new computer, I want to work on a Commander Keen expansion pack for the Sims! Sounds like a fun expansion
thenewmoonsidianX Vortininja Posts: 221 (3/5/04 7:24 pm) 63.164.140.71 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: That's right I'm willing to help make models. How many models are done and what extension do you need it in? It's almost time for the year anniversary of this project starting. For those who are weighed down with school and are trying to make a game at the same time, like I am, I try to schedule out the whole game on paper, and decide how long each bit will take, and find time in each day to do what I schedule. Of course this varies with how much work you have...
0 UNFLEEXABLE 0 aka Silly the Ghost Posts: 1543 (3/6/04 3:31 am) 203.26.24.213 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: likes sound of plan I'm the 10000th viewer! Yaay! > Hello Kiddies! I'm Silly the Ghost!
Joe Capricorn Grunt Posts: 28 (3/6/04 3:53 am) 68.82.216.89 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: likes sound of plan And I am 10001! A lesson in Ascillan: In the Dawn of a new age "Hu beikacho-yon xa beidhakyo-yut." In an eternal quest for world peace. "Hu ebe'et sayboo'lin-yut yyk choo'i-yon." Will you be my friend? "Chi choo'zilli xa ut kle?"
LevelLord00 Vortininja Posts: 82 (3/6/04 11:26 am) 219.88.57.195 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: That's right 10013! (13's my lucky number, Who was viewer 314?) "No one should be here" -Level Lord
0 UNFLEEXABLE 0 aka Silly the Ghost Posts: 1558 (3/6/04 10:49 pm) 203.26.24.216 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: likes sound of plan 314 ain't so big... > Hello Kiddies! I'm Silly the Ghost!
memsys Vortininja Posts: 85 (3/7/04 11:18 am) 212.142.15.103 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: likes sound of plan and I'm the 10048th viewer
DSL Vortininja Posts: 123 (3/7/04 12:05 pm) 81.226.151.168 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: That's right duke4e, check your Inbox!
KeenRush Photachyon Transceiver Posts: 5211 (3/7/04 1:47 pm) 212.246.17.130 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: likes sound of plan Wow, that really shows people are interested about 3D Keen fan game(s)! I've got only one message for you: ++++++++[>+++++++++<-]>+++.------..+++++++++.
DSL Vortininja Posts: 124 (3/7/04 5:43 pm) 81.226.151.168 Reply \| Edit \| Del	miragia could this be what the miragialevel looks like?
duke4e Grunt Posts: 35 (3/7/04 8:13 pm) 83.131.114.238 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: That's right he he, someone playing with geoscape??
Joe Capricorn Vortininja Posts: 35 (3/12/04 6:10 pm) 68.82.216.89 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: likes sound of plan Where do I find Geoscape? I mean, I have something similar but it is a computer game called Battlezone II... but Geoscape sounds fun! A lesson in Ascillan: In the Dawn of a new age "Hu beikacho-yon xa beidhakyo-yut." In an eternal quest for world peace. "Hu ebe'et sayboo'lin-yut yyk choo'i-yon." Will you be my friend? "Chi choo'zilli xa ut kle?"
KeenRush Photachyon Transceiver Posts: 5243 (3/12/04 6:54 pm) 212.246.17.130 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: miragia Hmmm, looks good, but maybe it could be a little bit more red. I've got only one message for you: ++++++++[>+++++++++<-]>+++.------..+++++++++.
0 UNFLEEXABLE 0 aka Silly the Ghost Posts: 1578 (3/12/04 9:16 pm) 203.26.24.218 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: That's right that miragia screenshot was the most boring screenshot on this topic so far! > Hello Kiddies! I'm Silly the Ghost!
JosephBurke Tres-tria quindecim Posts: 329 (3/12/04 9:57 pm) 68.106.139.158 Reply \| Edit \| Del	dunes It's a background for the level guys not a screen shot, so it's only counted as a texture or concept art. The background looks great DSL, and like KeenRush said it could use a little bit dark brown and maybe if possible bigger dunes. Perhaps colors similar to the below.
KeenRush Photachyon Transceiver Posts: 5249 (3/13/04 12:11 pm) 212.246.17.130 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: miragia Yes, I know it isn't a screenshot etc.. But yeah, exactly what Joseph said. Red like in the changed picture he posted and they could be a bit bigger. I've got only one message for you: ++++++++[>+++++++++<-]>+++.------..+++++++++.
LevelLord00 Vortininja Posts: 130 (3/13/04 12:18 pm) 210.86.45.249 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: That's right Show us a mars screenshot! "No one should be here" -Level Lord
Djaser Holy Monk Yorp Posts: 2398 (3/13/04 3:53 pm) 212.92.76.33 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: dunes Keen 3d is a remake of Keen 4 not Keen 1. Although I would prefer a Keen 1 remake, ah maybe later. ----------------- Download free games on The Dos Vault!!! The Dos Vault Forum is BACK!!! And it's here to stay.
thenewmoonsidianX Vortininja Posts: 228 (3/13/04 4:27 pm) 63.164.140.71 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: miragia Yeah, well, now that I have 3D Game Studio, making a 3D Keen 1 is within my reach...
DSL Vortininja Posts: 125 (3/13/04 4:33 pm) 81.226.151.168 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: That's right yesyes, red ofcourse. that pic is just something i made using the demo of geoscape (used photoshop for sky ) and thought i could make somthing like the miragia desert. THIS IS NO INGAME SCREENSHOT the dunes are actually pretty big, it's just the camera wich is very high above the ground Edited by: DSL at: 3/13/04 4:37 pm
BBalazs Vortininja Posts: 59 (3/13/04 4:46 pm) 82.131.168.2 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Cooool The pics are coool and I bet that the game itself will be cool (really really really excellent). I've got a question: About how much percent are you guys ready? (Can't wait to see the game...)
DSL Vortininja Posts: 126 (3/13/04 4:58 pm) 81.226.151.168 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: miragia check the previous pages... but there isn't much but planning done yet. a couple of 3dmodels and a small testgame (no real levels) done in 3dgamestudio (have not played it myself)
0 UNFLEEXABLE 0 aka Silly the Ghost Posts: 1587 (3/13/04 9:48 pm) 203.26.24.212 Reply \| Edit \| Del	rererererererererererererererererererererereply keen 1 & 2 in 3d would be insanely boring although I wouldn't mind playing keen 3 in 3d due to being able to visit vortihouses and such. > Hello Kiddies! I'm Silly the Ghost!
Djaser Holy Monk Yorp Posts: 2402 (3/14/04 8:17 am) 212.92.76.33 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: Cooool Ofcourse not you have just to do more with your imagination. And Newmoonsix, where are you waiting for make that game ----------------- Download free games on The Dos Vault!!! The Dos Vault Forum is BACK!!! And it's here to stay.
XkyRauh2001 Mortimer's Right Hand Man Posts: 752 (3/14/04 8:31 am) 67.94.116.143 Reply \| Edit \| Del	re: 2d to 3d When re-making any 2d game to 3d, there's a lot of creative artistic license at play. If anybody's played Sonic the Hedgehog (1991, Sega Genesis) and then got all 180 emblems in Sonic Adventure 2 (2001, Dreamcast), they've seen a rather refreshing case of 2d-to-3d development. I really can't put it into words, but if you've played it, you understand. Some areas are a lot BIGGER. In the 2d Sonic level, there was a spring atop a loop-de-loop that propelled you about twice Sonic's height and four times his width to a new platform. This same spring in the 3d Sonic level propels you at least twenty times Sonic's height, and well over forty times his width, to a new platform. The overall flow of the level is still intact (you can complete both in under a minute if you head straight for the exit) but the sense of nostalgia is fantastic. That being said... if I ever got on opportunity to be a level designer for a 2d-to-3d remake of Keen:Vorticons, I'd be extremely excited. :-) But Keen4 is a good place to start. --Xky
KeenRush Photachyon Transceiver Posts: 5260 (3/14/04 1:48 pm) 212.246.17.130 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: Cooool Hmmm, Keen 1 as 3D.. (Even I couldn't play I would like to see screenshots..) That would be very neat. If I ever get a good comp that can handle 3D etc., you can be sure I'll start to learn 3D programming (hopefully with C++). I've got only one message for you: ++++++++[>+++++++++<-]>+++.------..+++++++++.
thenewmoonsidianX Vortininja Posts: 232 (3/14/04 6:50 pm) 63.164.140.71 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: re: 2d to 3d *Quote:* And Newmoonsix, where are you waiting for make that game I am tied up with several other projects at the moment, but I promise a 3D Keen port of either Dreams of one of the 1-3 episodes will be done this year. I just had a thought.....if this 3D Keen game is an exact port of the original, you could make it like Crash Bandicoot, where the camera moves behind you or is a side-view, so all the levels are still corridor-like, retaining the structure of the originl game levels.
BBalazs Vortininja Posts: 60 (3/17/04 1:23 pm) 82.131.168.2 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Your website? I took a look back at the pages and saw someone writing: We need a server to host a website for this game or something like that. My suggestion is www.sourceforge.net, the same place where dosbox is... It is open for developers if they make the game freely downloadable and open source... If you do make this 3D Keen4 like this, it should be a good server. (I think). My appologies if someone mentioned this earlier... And even sorry if you already have a site...I don't know its address then - I really don't want to bother you busy designers making the best Keen game of all ages!
0 UNFLEEXABLE 0 aka Silly the Ghost Posts: 1594 (3/19/04 9:27 pm) 203.26.24.212 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: re: 2d to 3d captain comic in 3d would be shweet. > Hello Kiddies! I'm Silly the Ghost!
DSL Vortininja Posts: 131 (4/1/04 10:07 pm) 81.226.151.168 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: Cooool duke4e, check your inbox and to you others, there is nothing going on
LevelLord00 Vortininja Posts: 287 (4/2/04 11:38 am) 219.89.1.28 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: re: 2d to 3d Yes, nothing going on, nothing at all. (Kill, when to kill?) April fools! (Must kill. Kill now? No kill later) Really, kidding, notin at all. (Death to the infidels praise Allah! Muhahaha!) "No one should be here" -Level Lord
KeenRush Photachyon Transceiver Posts: 5408 (4/2/04 2:15 pm) 212.246.17.130 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: Your website? "I promise a 3D Keen port of either Dreams of one of the 1-3 episodes will be done this year" Ok, you promised, I'll remember.. I've got only one message for you: ++++++++[>+++++++++<-]>+++.------..+++++++++.
thenewmoonsidianX Vortininja Posts: 269 (4/2/04 9:20 pm) 63.164.140.71 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: re: 2d to 3d Yeah, I promised. Keen Dreams 3D will definitely be more likely. Also, I wish DSL and duke4e would put up more information!
0 UNFLEEXABLE 0 aka Silly the Ghost Posts: 1654 (4/3/04 1:51 am) 203.213.57.208 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: Cooool *Quote:* Death to the infidels praise Allah! it may interest you to know that I AM a muslim. MHUUAHAHAHAHAHA! I think i'm the only muslim on the boards and I strongly support terrorism! j/k! Terrorists are hypocritical %$@%$*%$%^# > Hello Kiddies! I'm Silly the Ghost!
KeenRush Photachyon Transceiver Posts: 5416 (4/3/04 5:25 am) 212.246.17.130 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: re: 2d to 3d Yes, that's what I hoped to hear. Keen Dreams is one I would really love to see. I've got only one message for you: ++++++++[>+++++++++<-]>+++.------..+++++++++.
0 UNFLEEXABLE 0 aka Silly the Ghost Posts: 1665 (4/3/04 5:43 am) 203.213.60.43 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: Your website? *Quote:* Yeah, I promised. mmm... 3d keen! > Hello Kiddies! I'm Silly the Ghost!
LevelLord00 Vortininja Posts: 306 (4/3/04 6:45 am) 219.88.58.53 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: re: 2d to 3d *Quote:* it may interest you to know that I AM a muslim. MHUUAHAHAHAHAHA! Who said I'm muslim? I don't believe in your religion, you actually worship a loving and merciful God, that goes against everything that I believe in. Convert to Idjutisim immediately, if you're not with us you're against us and will die like vermin. *Quote:* mmm... 3d keen! If we had 3 free Keen 3, And made 3 free Keen 3D, Could we have 3 free Keen 3 3D? You see I want 3D Keen 3 I see you have Keen 3 and also you have Keen 3D do you see I see Keen 3? Can you give me Keen 3 3D? "No one should be here" -Level Lord
KeenRush Photachyon Transceiver Posts: 5424 (4/3/04 8:19 am) 212.246.17.130 Reply \| Edit \| Del	The Painted Cow! Oh, I mean The Painted Keeeeen! Catching song! Yes, I would love to see Keen 3 3D as well. I would like to make one.. dreams I've got only one message for you: ++++++++[>+++++++++<-]>+++.------..+++++++++.
DSL Vortininja Posts: 135 (4/3/04 7:56 pm) 81.226.151.168 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: re: 2d to 3d maby people can use mine and duke4e's game as a base for those games?? just a thought...
LevelLord00 Vorticon Elite Posts: 321 (4/4/04 4:33 am) 219.88.57.52 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: Your website? *Quote:* Catching song Catching emotikeen! Ordering Breakfast. N E X? S. N E M? S O K M N X. (You'll figure it out.) "No one should be here" -Level Lord
0 UNFLEEXABLE 0 aka Silly the Ghost Posts: 1680 (4/4/04 10:58 am) 203.213.63.79 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: re: 2d to 3d How many sparkys can a sparky spark if a sparky can spark sparkys. > Hello Kiddies! I'm Silly the Ghost!
KeenRush Photachyon Transceiver Posts: 5441 (4/4/04 12:13 pm) 212.246.17.130 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: The Painted Cow! Oh, I mean The Painted Keeeeen! "(You'll figure it out.)" I wish, but I have no idea what that is.... I've got only one message for you: ++++++++[>+++++++++<-]>+++.------..+++++++++.
LevelLord00 Vorticon Elite Posts: 340 (4/5/04 10:07 am) 210.86.45.232 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: re: 2d to 3d *Quote:* How many sparkys can a sparky spark if a sparky can spark sparkys 29 *Quote:* I wish, but I have no idea what that is.... This uses the ancint dialect of 'cats knee' Sound it out. Clue: the first two letters are 'any' and s is 'yes' "No one should be here" -Level Lord
duke4e Grunt Posts: 38 (4/5/04 9:19 pm) 193.198.145.123 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: Your website? N E X? - Any X S. - Yes N E M? - Any M S - Yes O K M N X. - Ok Man X Am I close?
DSL Vortininja Posts: 139 (4/6/04 12:18 am) 81.226.151.168 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: re: 2d to 3d what on earth..?
LevelLord00 Vorticon Elite Posts: 349 (4/6/04 7:48 am) 219.88.58.53 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: The Painted Cow! Oh, I mean The Painted Keeeeen! Any eggs? yes. Any ham? yes. O.K ham and eggs. I L V KTS LBW "No one should be here" -Level Lord
thenewmoonsidianX Vortininja Posts: 274 (4/8/04 3:33 pm) 63.164.140.71 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: re: 2d to 3d We're getting off topic.
0 UNFLEEXABLE 0 aka Silly the Ghost Posts: 1692 (4/8/04 9:53 pm) 203.213.80.16 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: Your website? odd > Hello Kiddies! I'm Silly the Ghost!
LevelLord00 Vorticon Elite Posts: 375 (4/9/04 10:11 am) 219.88.58.21 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: re: 2d to 3d This is a long topic to get off of, I've been typing for hours and I'm still not off of it. "No one should be here" -Level Lord
KeenRush Photachyon Transceiver Posts: 5474 (4/9/04 10:49 am) 81.209.126.58 Reply \| Edit \| Del	In stereo Seriously, I think this too much off-topicin' starts to annoy others than me as well. So, please stop it! I don't say all off-topic is wrong or annoying (because I do that too (no, it's not my fault (the mind-belts aaargh))), but too much IS too much. I've got only one message for you: ++++++++[>+++++++++<-]>+++.------..+++++++++.
miniwink Meep Posts: 1 (4/15/04 6:55 am) 66.21.112.96 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Screenshots? I simply adored the original Keen games and played them even after id stopped making them. But I've always been wondering whether or not someone would port them to 3D, and so naturally this thread caught my interest. That said, is 3D development still underway -- meaning are models still being made and gathered? I know you all've shared models through e-mail, but is it possible to link to some images of them from here (and WORKING links, please )? I'm curious as to what we've all come up with for Keen and everyone else.
0 UNFLEEXABLE 0 Commodore Postpostpost Posts: 1883 (4/15/04 8:35 am) 203.213.61.13 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: Your website? there's quite a few 3d keen games in production. but we haven't heard from many of them for a while... Some will be stand-alone games, and others will be add-ons. Such as Commander Keen DOOM and my upcoming 'The Sims' Commander Keen expansion pack. > Hello Kiddies! I'm Silly the Ghost!
Djaser Holy Monk Yorp Posts: 2506 (4/15/04 12:07 pm) 212.92.76.33 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: re: 2d to 3d I don't expect en never expected that Doom mod to be released. That guy had a lot ideas made a site but didn't have a single screenshot to show. ----------------- Download free games on The Dos Vault!!! The Dos Vault Forum is BACK!!! And it's here to stay.
KeenRush Photachyon Transceiver Posts: 5587 (4/15/04 2:40 pm) 212.246.17.130 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: In stereo Yeah. This is the most promising project of those, and hopefully we see at least one of them 3D at some point of time. Hmmm, there was some screenshots on that Doom Keen page, but there wasn't anything big. I've got only one message for you: ++++++++[>+++++++++<-]>+++.------..+++++++++.
0 UNFLEEXABLE 0 Commodore Postpostpost Posts: 1894 (4/16/04 2:19 am) 203.213.80.106 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: Screenshots? *Quote:* I don't expect en never expected that Doom mod to be released. That guy had a lot ideas made a site but didn't have a single screenshot to show. yeah. IMO, The ideas were pretty crap too. The monster replacements were wierd. It could have been a little more creative. If he ever releases it, I'll definately play it, that's for sure. Long Live Doom II! > Hello Kiddies! I'm Silly the Ghost!
KeenRush Photachyon Transceiver Posts: 5604 (4/16/04 4:32 am) 212.246.17.130 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: Your website? Well, since they're using some Doom port they can probably code new behaviour for the enemies so it doesn't matter. I've got only one message for you: ++++++++[>+++++++++<-]>+++.------..+++++++++.
RoboRed Shikadi Security Guard Posts: 456 (4/21/04 6:05 pm) 147.134.198.5 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: re: 2d to 3d How's the project comming along? Over and out. That's My Horse <---I like the sleeping slug.
KeenRush Photachyon Transceiver Posts: 5702 (4/21/04 6:42 pm) 212.246.17.130 Reply \| Edit \| Del	B000m! All the news we've heard you can read in this topic. I've got only one message for you: ++++++++[>+++++++++<-]>+++.------..+++++++++.
0 UNFLEEXABLE 0 Commodore Postpostpost Posts: 1968 (4/22/04 2:21 am) 203.213.55.213 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: Screenshots? DSL said there'd be a demo released by Q3 2004. > Hello Kiddies! I'm Silly the Ghost!
DSL Vortininja Posts: 149 (4/22/04 11:59 am) 81.226.151.168 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: Your website? "when it's done" lol
Djaser Holy Monk Yorp Posts: 2596 (4/29/04 1:55 pm) 212.92.76.33 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: re: 2d to 3d Hey DSL, you said you didn't mind if your graphics were being used on other sites, didn't you? ----------------- Download free games on The Dos Vault!!! The Dos Vault Forum is BACK!!! And it's here to stay.
DSL Vortininja Posts: 158 (4/30/04 10:36 am) 81.226.151.168 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: re: 2d to 3d what particular graphics are you talking about?` no, i don't mind
Djaser Holy Monk Yorp Posts: 2600 (4/30/04 12:06 pm) 212.92.76.33 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: Screenshots? Well I'm currently making another Commander Keen page clone, and I want to put some graphics of your game on it (everyone will be credited of course) Could you sent me that screen of the slug and that tree too? They seem to offline. ----------------- Download free games on The Dos Vault!!! The Dos Vault Forum is BACK!!! And it's here to stay.
DSL Vortininja Posts: 159 (4/30/04 10:10 pm) 81.226.151.168 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: Your website? you mean the 3dslug?
Djaser Holy Monk Yorp Posts: 2604 (5/1/04 3:12 pm) 212.92.76.33 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: re: 2d to 3d yes, and there was also a picture of a tree. ----------------- Download free games on The Dos Vault!!! The Dos Vault Forum is BACK!!! And it's here to stay.
DSL Vortininja Posts: 160 (5/1/04 5:57 pm) 81.226.151.168 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: re: 2d to 3d hmm, let's see... where did i put that slug..?
BBalazs Vortininja Posts: 269 (5/31/04 5:19 pm) 82.131.168.2 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: Screenshots? Let's have it short: Any progress on the project? ------------------------------------------------------ Keep in mind, I'm not an artist.
KeenRush Photachyon Transceiver Posts: 6087 (5/31/04 7:22 pm) 212.246.17.130 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: Your website? Let me guess: it's almost done? It's the mind-belt....
duke4e Grunt Posts: 40 (5/31/04 10:20 pm) 193.198.142.171 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: re: 2d to 3d its done when its done... anyway, you guys will be the first to know it
BBalazs Vortininja Posts: 273 (6/1/04 1:35 pm) 82.131.168.2 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: re: 2d to 3d Why do the makers of an excellent game put us down because we it and await the result of this idea by full heart. WHY??? ------------------------------------------------------ Keep in mind, I'm not an artist.
DSL Vortininja Posts: 182 (6/1/04 3:00 pm) 81.226.151.9 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: Screenshots? easy there, good things needs it's time. sad but true
DSL Vortininja Posts: 201 (7/9/04 6:49 pm) 217.208.20.165 Reply \| Edit \| Del	... Ok boys and girls... I think it's time for me to anounce that me and duke4e officially starts this project. I should had posted this ealier but since there has been major problems with my internet connection, i have been unable to post this soo, the thing is--- we are going to make it as a mod for unrealt2004 (it's duke's decition since i'm from now on more responsible for the models and not the engine) I would love to see this project done in darkbasic and not as a mod but i think this will save alot of work too And the engine supports more features too i think Stay tuned
duke4e Grunt Posts: 44 (7/10/04 1:39 am) 193.198.142.77 Reply \| Edit \| Del	finally some details (about my work) -the game will be 3rd person shooter -it will use cel-shading (cartoon renderer),just like XII -i'm done with more then 700 textures (i thing thats enough) -currently i'm working on music for our game/mod (and it's goin great!) -i'm drunk now (but who cares)
Q90 Vortininja Posts: 53 (7/10/04 2:19 am) 12.73.10.121 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: re: 2d to 3d So if you're drunk, then is the cel-shading thing a lie? Cuz that would be awesome. ------------------------------------ peaceup atowndown
DSL Vortininja Posts: 203 (7/10/04 2:47 am) 217.208.20.44 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: re: 2d to 3d it's not a lie. i have seen it. pass me the joint plz
grafix5000 Vortininja Posts: 271 (7/10/04 7:06 am) 81.7.54.232 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: ... That reminds me... I need to get a copy of UT04. Sounds amazing, but are you going to be able to achieve it? Let's all hope for that. If Keen eats all that sugar, why doesn't he get a coronary? goto http://www.toxicsheep.com/ to see my site!
thenewmoonsidianX Vortininja Posts: 320 (7/10/04 2:34 pm) 205.162.31.165 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Indeed FINALLY, just took 1 1/2 years of preparation Finally production begins! Very eager to see Keen4 in 3D! btw, just curious, but would it be okay if you let us download the 3D Game Studio demo of Keen4, just for kicks?
Djaser Holy Monk Yorp Posts: 2936 (7/10/04 2:41 pm) 212.92.76.33 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: re: 2d to 3d That means I have to buy a copy of Unreal I think it's ok that it will be a 3d shooter but will we be able to see keen walking and jumping on platforms etc. because a normal shooter like return to caste wolfenstein wouldn't fit Keen. ----------------- The Holy Realm The Dos Vault Forum is BACK!!! And it's here to stay.
duke4e Grunt Posts: 45 (7/10/04 4:17 pm) 193.198.142.211 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: re: 2d to 3d *Quote:* btw, just curious, but would it be okay if you let us download the 3D Game Studio demo of Keen4, just for kicks? i don't think so... if you ask me it's ok, but we have been using warez version of 3d game studio, so we cannot publish it because we didn't buy the engine! if we ever finished keen in 3d game studio, then we whould buy it, and made it awailable for legal download sorry
DSL Vortininja Posts: 204 (7/10/04 6:13 pm) 217.208.20.123 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: ... it wasn't so much to show either i think... am i right?
BBalazs Vortininja Posts: 466 (7/10/04 6:33 pm) 82.131.168.2 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: Indeed FINALLY, just took 1 1/2 years of preparation I got no idea what will this actually turn out into... Using an original engine is perhaps okay, but it would need some tuning... I am not an UT expert, not even an UT beginner, I don't have UT, but how on earth would you implement pogo+ledgegrabbing into UT? ------------------------------------------------------ Keep in mind, I'm not an artist.
DSL Vortininja Posts: 205 (7/10/04 10:07 pm) 217.208.20.123 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: re: 2d to 3d it's duke's thing to solve
KeenRush Photachyon Transceiver Posts: 6464 (7/10/04 11:20 pm) 81.17.199.74 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: re: 2d to 3d Must.. buy.. Unreal.. Oh, great to hear you guys are still at this. The progress sounds very good (so many textures and so on). Good luck! Also, if duke has skills, it won't be a problem. I'm sure Unreal modifications allow same kind of coding and tweaking that Half-Life ones; which can make the game totally different. And besides, if he can't code that, I'm sure there are someone in da Unreel communities that can do that. Keen on! We want Keen Chronicles!
Yowza Vortininja Posts: 319 (7/11/04 10:34 am) 0.244.224.8 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: ... *Quote:* I think it's time for me to anounce that me and duke4e officially starts this project. Page 27, and you've only just now officially started? ... Damn
LevelLord00 Vorticon Elite Posts: 1157 (7/11/04 12:11 pm) 219.89.1.99 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: Indeed FINALLY, just took 1 1/2 years of preparation Beware DNF syndrome! If no one gets whats going on- too bad! UR A Frt Ltl Mrt Dsinhrt! "No one should be here" -Level Lord
duke4e Grunt Posts: 46 (7/11/04 2:15 pm) 193.198.144.92 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: re: 2d to 3d pogo is just a "automated" double jump, so this won't be problem to code, since ut2k3* already has double jump ledge grabbing?? i don't think it will fit into 3d game. maybe we'll add a grapplin hook (just like in quake2 ctf mod) * ut2k3 - Unreal Tournament 2003
KeenRush Photachyon Transceiver Posts: 6470 (7/11/04 2:27 pm) 81.17.199.74 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: re: 2d to 3d Yeah, ledge grapping isn't really required. Also, sounds good the pogo can be easily worked out. We want Keen Chronicles!
BBalazs Vortininja Posts: 470 (7/11/04 5:22 pm) 82.131.168.2 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: ... Remember the pogo has 2 jump heights: a small and a large jump. ------------------------------------------------------ Keep in mind, I'm not an artist.
Djaser Holy Monk Yorp Posts: 2944 (7/11/04 7:21 pm) 212.92.76.33 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: Indeed FINALLY, just took 1 1/2 years of preparation Duke I've still no answer on this question: will we see Keen live in the previous screens or just a big gun like normal shooters? ----------------- The Holy Realm The Dos Vault Forum is BACK!!! And it's here to stay.
DSL Vortininja Posts: 206 (7/11/04 7:53 pm) 217.208.20.201 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: re: 2d to 3d "Indeed FINALLY, just took 1 1/2 years of preparation" heh, i would not say preperation... it's has just been short of time.... And yes, it will be thirdperson perspective. i think pogoing and edgegrabing would be a pain in firstperson
KeenRush Photachyon Transceiver Posts: 6475 (7/12/04 9:02 am) 81.17.199.74 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: re: 2d to 3d It's really been that long time? We want Keen Chronicles!
Creative madman Vortininja Posts: 68 (7/12/04 1:02 pm) 211.30.99.158 Reply \| Edit \| Del	ledge-Grabbing and pogoing if its a 3rd Person Ledge grabbing would be good like in SW Bounty Hunter he clings to edges when he falls and stuff. i rekon taking a similar kind of ledge grab would be mad cheack it out if you havent got an idea wot im talking about as for pogoing a constant high jump
lv4n Grunt Posts: 35 (7/13/04 8:04 am) 82.146.21.89 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: Indeed FINALLY, just took 1 1/2 years of preparation Well one good reason to buy UT2004! But I don't have enough freespace to install it... So I'm not looking forward anymore for this project, untill I upgrade my pc (which seems will not happend in the near future). Anyway, keep the good work. ---- I <3 Greta
Q90 Vortininja Posts: 69 (7/13/04 7:15 pm) 12.73.8.17 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: re: 2d to 3d SEND SCREENS NOW !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ------------------------------------ peaceup atowndown
duke4e Grunt Posts: 48 (7/15/04 2:06 am) 193.198.138.59 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: re: 2d to 3d here's one great link to all of you: http://www.shadowlands3d.tk/ if the link doesn't work, here's another: redlaine.topcities.com
Q90 Vortininja Posts: 73 (7/15/04 2:39 am) 12.73.9.204 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: ledge-Grabbing and pogoing How come none from ut2k4? ------------------------------------ peaceup atowndown
KeenRush Photachyon Transceiver Posts: 6500 (7/15/04 9:58 am) 81.17.199.74 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: Indeed FINALLY, just took 1 1/2 years of preparation VERY nice! Cool stuff on the site, really looking forward this mod! We want Keen Chronicles!
Djaser Holy Monk Yorp Posts: 2964 (7/15/04 10:17 am) 212.92.76.33 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: re: 2d to 3d I think it's sad that the 3d games studio game will not be finished. ----------------- The Holy Realm The Dos Vault Forum is BACK!!! And it's here to stay.
DSL Vortininja Posts: 212 (7/15/04 1:34 pm) 217.208.22.222 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: re: 2d to 3d yeah i think so too, but on the other hand i think the UTengine offers more stuff than the engine of 3dgamestudio...
BBalazs Vortininja Posts: 512 (7/15/04 6:34 pm) 82.131.168.2 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: ledge-Grabbing and pogoing Well I'm not sure about that, DSL... You see, if you dig into a game maker program you realise it can do much more than you thought. ------------------------------------------------------ Keep in mind, I'm not an artist.
DSL Vortininja Posts: 215 (7/15/04 9:18 pm) 217.208.20.88 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: ledge-Grabbing and pogoing maby you are right, maby you are wrong i dunno... u think ut2003 engine will be enough
duke4e Grunt Posts: 51 (7/15/04 11:26 pm) 193.198.128.7 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: re: 2d to 3d a little webpage update! also, please check this poll click on me!
thenewmoonsidianX Vortininja Posts: 328 (7/16/04 12:49 am) 64.19.115.129 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: re: 2d to 3d Great website, nice stuff! I'm liking the BWB rocket very much! Hopefully this project will see completion soon! Strangely, more was completed on this project in this recent week than it has in 1 1/2 years. Odd... EDIT: Just had an idea. Put the Keen4 3DGS files up on the Internet in a ZIP, I'll download it, and Publish the files with my registered 3DGS to make a playable EXE. Whatdya think? Edited by: thenewmoonsidianX at: 7/16/04 12:54 am
DSL Vortininja Posts: 217 (7/16/04 1:12 am) 217.208.20.88 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: re: 2d to 3d that's cause we started the project very recently
BBalazs Vortininja Posts: 517 (7/16/04 6:14 am) 82.131.168.2 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: ledge-Grabbing and pogoing Have you gone over the bandwith limit? It says the page is suspended because of that and/or you must register a paid account, but I don't think that's the problem. ------------------------------------------------------ Keep in mind, I'm not an artist.
KeenRush Photachyon Transceiver Posts: 6511 (7/16/04 10:54 am) 81.17.199.74 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: re: 2d to 3d Hmmm, better vote on that poll.. We want Keen Chronicles!
Yowza Vortininja Posts: 323 (7/16/04 11:55 am) 0.244.224.10 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: re: 2d to 3d The music on your site is great and all... but is that what's going to be in the game? Because, isn't this just meant to be a 3D version of Keen4? Wouldn't it have, you know, Keen 4 music?
DSL Vortininja Posts: 220 (7/16/04 1:15 pm) 217.208.22.143 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: re: 2d to 3d this game will not be an exact copy of keen4. the levels will be there but they will look different. same with the music. we'll try making the music as keen as possible. i have done some music now that we'll put on the site later on
LevelLord00 Vorticon Elite Posts: 1188 (7/16/04 2:08 pm) 219.88.57.180 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: ledge-Grabbing and pogoing poems The people that I hate the most, Say TUIT is toast. 'How did you get it in your head, That Keen is anything but dead?' 'Its Game Over! No more lives! TUIT is a dive.' To them I say, 'I have no fear, For it is being built right here.' If no one gets whats going on- too bad! UR A Frt Ltl Mrt Dsinhrt! "No one should be here" -Level Lord
DSL Vortininja Posts: 221 (7/16/04 2:43 pm) 217.208.22.143 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: ledge-Grabbing and pogoing nice poem you suggest that we are making TUIT?
duke4e Grunt Posts: 52 (7/16/04 3:18 pm) 193.198.142.200 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: re: 2d to 3d yup, ther goes our bandwidth for today! we're currently waiting for a reply from planetunreal about hosting...
KeenRush Photachyon Transceiver Posts: 6519 (7/16/04 3:45 pm) 81.17.199.74 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: re: 2d to 3d Hmmm, TUIT please! And agree, nice poem. And also, it would be good if you get that host. Hopefully there's not too much adds. We want Keen Chronicles!
thenewmoonsidianX Vortininja Posts: 329 (7/16/04 4:48 pm) 64.19.114.134 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: ledge-Grabbing and pogoing What about my 3DGS proposal?
Q90 Vortininja Posts: 86 (7/16/04 5:15 pm) 12.73.8.146 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: ledge-Grabbing and pogoing Read the site--it's cancelled. However, I'm working on a 3D Keen in C++ code so everybody can experience the joys of a Q90 program. It'll be finished next year though, probably. ------------------------------------ peaceup atowndown
DSL Vortininja Posts: 223 (7/16/04 10:13 pm) 217.208.22.143 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: ledge-Grabbing and pogoing good luck with booth your engines then
KeenRush Photachyon Transceiver Posts: 6528 (7/17/04 6:21 am) 81.17.199.74 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: re: 2d to 3d Agree. Creating 3D engine isn't that easy.. We want Keen Chronicles!
LevelLord00 Vorticon Elite Posts: 1196 (7/17/04 12:47 pm) 219.89.1.47 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: ledge-Grabbing and pogoing I'll say! *Quote:* nice poem you suggest that we are making TUIT? No, just the embodiment of everything TUIT will be. If no one gets whats going on- too bad! UR A Frt Ltl Mrt Dsinhrt! "No one should be here" -Level Lord
Q90 Vortininja Posts: 91 (7/17/04 6:04 pm) 12.73.8.86 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: ledge-Grabbing and pogoing DSL good luck with booth your engines then Let me tell y'all somethin about my engines: CKLVL03 (Keens 4-6) for TGF--Out tomorrow (v1.3)! CKLVL01 (Keens 1-3) for QBASIC--Out in December (v1.0). 3DMedit (a 3D map editor) for Windows--Out Next Year. And Shadowlands 3D is an awesome site. Can't wait til it comes out ! P.S. Sorry CommanderSpleen that I stole your way of quoting ------------------------------------ peaceup atowndown
rorie1983 Keen Crazy Posts: 176 (8/3/04 3:52 am) 192.168.7.40 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: 3D Keen4 hey guys! check this out you can download it here home.tiscalinet.de/xception/Xtreme3D.zip and yes it was created in a registered version of game maker 5.3 The Dos Vault Forum Edited by: rorie1983 at: 8/3/04 3:53 am
KeenRush Vorticon Elite Posts: 6737 (8/3/04 8:12 am) 81.209.122.148 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: re: 2d to 3d Is that made by you? We want Keen Chronicles!
OnkelPeterle Vortininja Posts: 57 (8/3/04 11:30 am) 84.128.98.210 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: ledge-Grabbing and pogoing And where is the executalbe?!? :(
rorie1983 Keen Crazy Posts: 178 (8/4/04 1:43 am) 192.168.7.40 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: 3D Keen4 u have to download game maker http://www.gamemaker.nl/ open it & then save it as a executable The Dos Vault Forum
BBalazs Vorticon Elite Posts: 608 (8/4/04 7:14 am) 82.131.168.2 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: 3D Keen4 Game maker can program in 3D?! That's what I always wanted to ask. If there is some sort of description on how to do it, I guess I could take a look at it... ------------------------------------------------------ Keep in mind, I'm not an artist.
Creative madman Vortininja Posts: 73 (8/6/04 9:59 am) 211.31.32.212 Reply \| Edit \| Del	no GameMaker cant do real 3D but i think it can do Wolf3D style 3D which is just a bunch of pictures arranged in a 3D manner am i right
Retodon8 Vortininja Posts: 228 (8/6/04 12:19 pm) 193.173.38.232 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: ledge-Grabbing and pogoing Uhm, Wolfenstein 3D isn't 3D? Sure it is, it even has it in the name! (I suppose it's easy enough to lie, but it'd be equally stupid.) Every 3D game is presented on a 2D screen, meaning there's nothing really 3D there. If you actually dive deep into the code you'll only find only 0s and 0s, and beyond that little electrical currents, so it's all fake. Since computers are digital, yes, games are basically a fast slideshow of pictures, but that counts for every single game there is. In other words, I'm sorry, but no, you're not right. Retodon8 You live, you die, you are remembered, you are forgotten.
Flaose Vorticon Elder Posts: 1471 (8/6/04 1:13 pm) 68.147.109.142 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: 3D Keen4 The "arenas" are 3D (pressented through ray-casting I believe), but the "actors" are not. -------------------- Cerebral Cortex 314 - For All of your Commander Keen Needs. Eat at Joes
KeenRush Vorticon Elite Posts: 6766 (8/6/04 2:23 pm) 81.17.199.74 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: 3D Keen4 They're still (good ol') sprites. We want Keen Chronicles!
Djaser Grunt Posts: 3095 (8/6/04 3:46 pm) 212.92.76.33 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: no *Quote:* The "arenas" are 3D (pressented through ray-casting I believe), but the "actors" are not. In that case Tombraider I and II weren't even 3d. ----------------- Back to spring 2002 when the crusade started...
Retodon8 Vortininja Posts: 229 (8/6/04 3:58 pm) 193.173.38.232 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: ledge-Grabbing and pogoing True about the sprites of course. They were just pictures of the enemies from 8 different angles, going through a set for animations like walking, shooting and the like. Later for instance Shadow Warrior introduced voxel objects, that is powerups, not enemies, to the FPS genre in this way. (Before voxels were used for terrain kind of things.) Those were 3D, but still low res, and therefor blocky. I don't understand the Tomb Raider comment. I am pretty sure both the levels and everything in it was 3D... Retodon8 You live, you die, you are remembered, you are forgotten.
Djaser Grunt Posts: 3097 (8/6/04 4:14 pm) 212.92.76.33 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: 3D Keen4 *Quote:* I don't understand the Tomb Raider comment. I am pretty sure both the levels and everything in it was 3D... Enemies and environment were exept for some miscellenous objects. If a 3d with flat enemies isn't fully 3d than a game with flat objects isn't either. ----------------- Back to spring 2002 when the crusade started...
lemur821 Vortininja Posts: 166 (8/7/04 1:05 am) 172.155.145.226 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: 3D Keen4 A game with flat enemies can be 3d. Wolfenstein limited you to only one plane of motion, so I can see how a person might say it wasn't 3d. I say it was, because it used 3d graphics (although crude) in a way that impacts the gameplay.
Creative madman Vortininja Posts: 74 (8/7/04 5:32 am) 211.31.32.212 Reply \| Edit \| Del	what i ment was i ment imitation 3D. why must u take everything so literally this subject is so out of hand
Retodon8 Vortininja Posts: 230 (8/7/04 1:24 pm) 81.171.8.22 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: 3D Keen4 *Quote:* Wolfenstein limited you to only one plane of motion, so I can see how a person might say it wasn't 3d. True, Wolfenstein 3D could've been an oldskool top-down view game, and the gameplay would've been identical. Well, the controls would've been different, but besides that identical. *Quote:* i ment imitation 3D. Yeah, well, that was on of my points in my previous post. Everything "3D" you see on a computer is imitation 3D. I see no harm in discussing on-topic subject this for a bit until we get some kind of update on the Keen 4 remake. Retodon8 You live, you die, you are remembered, you are forgotten.
lemur821 Vortininja Posts: 173 (8/7/04 8:05 pm) 172.141.26.166 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: 3D Keen4 *Quote:* True, Wolfenstein 3D could've been an oldskool top-down view game, and the gameplay would've been identical. Actually, I meant that the gameplay would have been different. Mainly, you wouldn't have been able too see as far ahead if it were top down, but you would have been able to see around corners. Secret areas would also have been dodgier.
Retodon8 Vortininja Posts: 233 (8/8/04 12:37 am) 81.171.8.22 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: 3D Keen4 First of all, after thinking for a bit, I think it really depends on what you/I/we mean with gameplay. I think I'd rather use the words game experience here. Yes, the game experience is very different with Wolfenstein 3D than it would've been if it was another top-down view game, which explains why it was huge, and why it basically destroyed a new Keen game in the process. The first problem would've existed then, but now with high resolution video cards and monitors, the characters, powerups, walls and everything could've been smaller in the game, and you'd still be able to see quite far. Seeing around corners... well, take a look at WarCraft 3 for example. It's possible to program the game so that you can't see around corners. You'd need to do something similar for the field of vision, since that basically is an endless cone with the point right between the eyes. Well, 2D, so a triangle really. Secret areas would've been solved with the same programming as the seeing-around-corners part, where walls block your view. I may have simplified things a bit, but in theory it's very possible to make an exact clone of Wolfenstein 3D as a top-down view game. I'd like to get back to my first paragraph, and point to the gaming experience again. In the end, that is what really matters, and that is why Wolfenstein 3D was such a success! It felt like 3D, it felt like you were walking around for real. That is why I prefer the later Keen games over the former, since things look like they have some more depth, even though through editing the graphics to be simpler you could get a original Keen-style game again. Well, that's my two pence worth. Retodon8 You live, you die, you are remembered, you are forgotten.
lemur821 Vortininja Posts: 177 (8/8/04 7:03 am) 172.147.231.33 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: what i ment was Game experience, then, if you prefer. Just out of curiosity, what does gameplay mean to you? You already know what the word means to me. ________________
Retodon8 Vortininja Posts: 240 (8/9/04 3:43 pm) 193.173.38.232 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: 3D Keen4 I am not sure how to answer that. That's actually why I introduced the term "game experience" to the discussion; it felt less ambiguous. The gameplay... the game you play. The top-down game I discussed would basically be the same game, everything would be the same, even controls, only the view would be different. The view has quite an impact, so the game play would definately not be identical, but still similar. You would experience the game quite differently though, even if you're still basically doing the same thing. I don't feel like I'm making much sense here, so I'll just come to the conclusion there isn't really 1 ultimate, true meaning for the term "game play", which is confusing. Retodon8 You live, you die, you are remembered, you are forgotten.
lemur821 Vortininja Posts: 189 (8/9/04 7:37 pm) 172.140.34.213 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: 3D Keen4 I see where you made a distinction. You were thinking of the player's subjective experience, and considering gameplay to be more of a mechanics thing. ________________
Q90 Vortininja Posts: 231 (8/24/04 3:47 am) 12.73.8.131 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: 3D Keen4 Question: Can you get UnrealEd seperately from UT2K4? ------------------------------------ QSilver90 Entertainment Go there! Now! I command you!
Retodon8 Vortininja Posts: 285 (8/24/04 3:12 pm) 193.173.38.232 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: what i ment was Nope, since the editor basically is the same thing as the engine. I personally own the game and therefore editor, and like both. The closest thing you can get is the Runtime. http://www.unrealtechnology.com/html/runtime/overview.shtml Just check the link to see what it's all about. Retodon8 You live, you die, you are remembered, you are forgotten.

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