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Zorath 
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Posts: 242
(3/14/04 3:08 pm)
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More 3/14 stuff
Here's something from me, to celebrate 3/14:
Download.
Run START.BAT.
Edit: If the above link doesn't work, try this: mirror
Edited by: Zorath at: 3/14/04 3:16 pm
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KeenRush 
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Posts: 5262
(3/14/04 4:38 pm)
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Re: More 3/14 stuff
Heh, great job!!  Now this adds some more classic value to Keen.
I made it a mirror, hope you don't mind. Here:
www.keengrid.net/ckfiles/...1keenc.zip
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Djaser 
Holy Monk Yorp
Posts: 2404
(3/14/04 6:21 pm)
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Re: More 3/14 stuff
Maybe we could also make a 50k version of Keen1?
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KeenRush
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(3/14/04 6:30 pm)
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Re: More 3/14 stuff
That would be probably quite hard.. The coding..
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allstories 
Posts: 14
(3/19/04 2:32 am)
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heh
Was Keen released on 3/14? Cuz I just thought you guys were keen on celebrating Pi Day. 
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Xtraverse
Stranded Fish
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(3/19/04 2:50 am)
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Re: heh
I'd hope nobody here is that geeky :P
Anyways, 3/14 = 314 = Keen's IQ so that's why we celebrate it I guess.
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KeenRush
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(3/19/04 5:55 am)
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Re: heh
Pi Day, heh, haven't thought this that way.
Yes, IQ 314 is the reason.
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LevelLord00 
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Posts: 183
(3/19/04 9:31 am)
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Re: heh
Hey, I made a few patches for colourschemes like that. (Colours.ZIP)
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Pi Day, heh, haven't thought this that way
It's pi day alright, consider:
Keens IQ: 314
Mortimer's IQ: 315
Number of Keen episodes before Keen was cut: 9
Pi: 3.14159
Coincidence?
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Djaser
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(3/19/04 1:26 pm)
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Re: heh
I thought we had only 7 keen episodes and what is that one doing there?
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CommanderSpleen
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(3/19/04 2:24 pm)
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I thought we had only 7 keen episodes and what is that one doing there?
Ah, but you forget:
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It's all in the mind, I myself have constructed a fantasy world of deception that I never leave. With a little practice you can turn faliure into 'episode two'
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Muhahahahahaha! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! AHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
Good ol' Keen 7 and 8. Absolutely brilliant games. I don't know how you all can't have played them! What rock have you been living under for the past 12 years!?
Muhahahahahaha! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! AHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! Aahh..hahaha... hah... heh... herhh... hmm...
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KeenRush
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Posts: 5294
(3/19/04 5:39 pm)
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Re: LevelLords Insane... what can I say?
 Well, you can't say Pi is something because it is endless and if you say it's something like 3.14159 it isn't endless. [/idiot mode]
Agree. They are more fun than real life!!
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(3/19/04 9:47 pm)
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Re: LevelLords Insane... what can I say?
so Zorath... will we be seeing keens 2 & 3 in cga any time soon?
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KeenRush
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(3/19/04 10:17 pm)
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Re: LevelLords Insane... what can I say?
I hope so, but I really dunno, haven't seen Zorath for a while (probably busy, he has exam weeks too). 
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LevelLord00
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(3/19/04 10:26 pm)
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Re: LevelLords Insane... what can I say?
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I thought we had only 7 keen episodes and what is that one doing there?
They were going to make three more; The universe is toast, The universe might not be toast and Mort is toast.
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if you say it's something like 3.14159
...26535897923846264338327950288419716939937510
58209749445923078164062862089986280348253421170679...
(To 100 places, I could go father if you like, I have a program for such things.)
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you can't say Pi is something because it is endless
Oh yeah? then why is 0.1428571428... called a seventh? I can call Pi 'Pi', it satands for that endless value (pi is only infinite in our counting system, if we had Pi fingers then pi would be written as 1.
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KeenRush
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(3/19/04 11:55 pm)
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Re: LevelLords Insane... what can I say?
Noticed "[/idiot mode]"? 
Yes, I know Pi means that, it's just the same than some other word meaning something thing.. And yes, it all depends on counting system, and your beliefs about mathematical laws..
Anyways. I know Pi can be calculated, I have poster of Pi with 10000 digits on my wall.
By the way, were those official names for the games? The final "Mort is toast" sounds quite promising. 
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Yowza
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(3/20/04 9:20 am)
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Re: LevelLords Insane... what can I say?
Ah Pi...
I'm assuming I'm not the only one with pi to a few million digits. Or was it a billion digits... Hell, I can't even remember now :X
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Zorath
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(3/20/04 7:09 pm)
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Re: LevelLords Insane... what can I say?
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so Zorath... will we be seeing keens 2 & 3 in cga any time soon?
No, most likely not, I don't feel like making more "remixes" of the Keen games - So if anyone want to make CGA Keen 2 and 3 feel free to rip the sprites from this mod.
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(3/21/04 12:30 am)
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Re: LevelLords Insane... what can I say?
how'd you convert it to cga like that zorath? 
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LevelLord00
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(3/21/04 3:38 am)
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Re: LevelLords Insane... what can I say?
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I'm assuming I'm not the only one with pi to a few million digits. Or was it a billion digits... Hell, I can't even remember now :X
1'572'937'613 digits actually, stord as a special text file. (I found 9 314's in it before I got bored.)
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how'd you convert it to cga like that zorath?
Check the patch file, it has a colour patch that turns all the colours CGA; you can alter any of the colours as much as you want- another help for mods.
Doing Keen 2-3 will be more difficult; the required patch doesn't exist to my knowledge, rest assured I'm looking for it.
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adurdin
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(3/21/04 6:45 am)
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Re: LevelLords Insane... what can I say?
Levellord -- you should be able to work out most of the patch yourself: just open up the Keen 1 and 2 exes in a hex editor, and look for the same sequence of bytes that the keen 1 patch replaced.
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Zorath
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(3/21/04 9:22 am)
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Re: LevelLords Insane... what can I say?
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Check the patch file, it has a colour patch that turns all the colours CGA; you can alter any of the colours as much as you want- another help for mods.
I didn't use the patch to turn the colors into CGA, I redrew all the graphics by hand. The patch file was just there to get the fade-out effects right.
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LevelLord00
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(3/21/04 9:24 am)
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Re: LevelLords sane... what can I say?
Indeed. Keen 2 CGA
Is it that easy to find all the patches for Keen 2?
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Yowza
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(3/21/04 9:34 am)
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Re: LevelLords Insane... what can I say?
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1'572'937'613 digits actually, stord as a special text file. (I found 9 314's in it before I got bored.)
Yeah, I think that's the one...
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Frenkel
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(3/21/04 12:29 pm)
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seventh
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Oh yeah? then why is 0.1428571428... called a seventh?
Because that one repeats, like 1/7 = 0.142857 142857 142857 142857 ...
Pi and e don't have such a repeating patern.
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KeenRush
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(3/21/04 8:20 pm)
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Re: seventh
"Is it that easy to find all the patches for Keen 2?"
Yes, probably the "easy" patches, like those which just change some existing code, but it might be a bit harder to find free space and do other tweaking to get the longer patches that create something totally new code, like teleport patch for example, working. Or dunno, I just guess.
Oh, and noticed what Z said Levellord?
"I didn't use the patch to turn the colors into CGA, I redrew all the graphics by hand."
Edit: Oh, and gotta try that SGA Keen 2, sounds cool!
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LevelLord00
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(3/22/04 10:30 am)
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Re: seventh
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Oh, and noticed what Z said Levellord
Yeah, I noticed some differences between the patcch and the result, I just hate editing my posts. The patch works quicker though, and can be varied. (Try black and white)
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probably the "easy" patches
Darn, my next mod'll need some 'hard' patches (Doors on the map, keep keycards.)
Perhaps a collection of Keen 2-3 patches would encourage more modding?
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Because that one repeats, like 1/7 = 0.142857 142857 142857 142857 ...
The square root of -1 is "i"; square roots are given names and symbols, they don't repeat. The number 'rho' is 1.234693877536... all are given names and symbols. Want more? 'delt' the ratio of a tetrahedrons side length to its volume there are countless numbers.
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Enchantermon
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(3/25/04 12:58 pm)
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Re: seventh
Levellord: Your link to Keen2 CGA isn't working...it just returns me to this thread. Enchantermon
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Snaily
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(3/25/04 3:05 pm)
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Re: seventh
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The square root of -1 is "i"; square roots are given names and symbols, they don't repeat. The number 'rho' is 1.234693877536... all are given names and symbols. Want more? 'delt' the ratio of a tetrahedrons side length to its volume there are countless numbers.
To be perfectly honest - your argument is a bit lacking.
Certain numbers are given a symbol, but they are very very few. I can only think of two that are usable in any context, and those are pi and e. Regarding algebraic numbers (such as square roots), I don't really see the point - they have a short definition and might very well be written as that.
Of course, one may still define a symbol to use in a certain context to have a certain value, but they are not universally given. How would that work, when you yourself say that there are countless of them?
Feel free to ask more.
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Xtraverse
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(3/25/04 3:54 pm)
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Re: seventh
That would be freewebs banning hotlinking. Copy the link and paste it in your address bar.
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LevelLord00
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(3/26/04 11:09 am)
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Re: seventh
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Levellord: Your link to Keen2 CGA isn't working...it just returns me to this thread. Enchantermon
Right click, select 'save as'
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To be perfectly honest - your argument is a bit lacking.
It's hard to argue a school of philospohy on a forum. Face to face I bet we could have an interesting conversation. I just hate mathematicians saying things like 'infinity is an odd number, if you have infinity dollars you can spend an infinite anmount and stll have as much as you started with' thats STUPID infinity is still a mathematical number! Its not some kind of numeric black hole that defies all the laws of maths. What next 'Quantum addition theory'?
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Frenkel
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(3/26/04 12:48 pm)
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Q and R
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Regarding rational numbers (such as square roots),
Square roots are irrational numbers, just like pi and e. They are endless. pi = 3.14... and 2 ^ (1/2) = square root of 2 = 1.41...
You can't write the square root of 2 as p/q.
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Snaily
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(3/26/04 4:48 pm)
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Re: Q and R
Oops, yes, you are right.
I had irrational numbers mixed up with algebraic, and I'm going to edit my post above. The point still holds, though.
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LevelLord00
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(3/27/04 1:14 am)
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Square roots are irrational numbers,
Yep, like the square root of 25, they just go on and on (5.00000000000000000....)
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