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(2/14/04 2:46 am)
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What would you name Keens 7-9 in the TUIT trilogy?
We all know that all 6 (excluding Keen Dreams) CK games had a specific title and belonged to a particular trilogy...

Invasion of the Vorticons : Marooned On Mars
Invasion of the Vorticons : The Earth Explodes
Invasion of the Vorticons : Keen Must Die
Goodbye Galaxy : Secret of the Oracle
Goodbye Galaxy : Aliens Ate My Babysitter
Goodbye Galaxy : The Armageddon Machine

(AAMB counts as a GG game because it was seperated from the GG trilogy by Formgen)

So what would you name The Universe Is Toast episodes 1, 2 & 3? :D

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CommanderSpleen
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(2/14/04 4:30 am)
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What's in a Name? The Universe's Toes.
Last year, around this time (I think) I was designing a TUIT game concept that had five episodes. Three could easily be condensed into one.

The first episode, Wrath on Korath III, would take place on the Shikadi Homeworld, and it would be Keen's job to take out some form of central generator, thus taking out the majority of the Shikadi's offensive capacity and extinguishing their self-reliance.

In Episode Two, Fleeting Hope, Mortimer scrounges up a sizeable army from throughout the galaxy, planning a massive attack on all opposing civilisations (and of course plotting behind the scenes to turn his own allies against one another). While the free galaxy musters together a force suitable to hold the onslaught back. It's Keen's job to prevent this final battle from becoming a necessity by infiltrating Mortimer's fleet (It'd have to feature a stunning Game Over sequence).

The final episode, Mono en Mono, is the final battle between Commander Keen and the Grand Intellect. Mortimer is forced to rely on his empty fleet, disemboweled from Keen's previous handywork, hiding away within its depths. He's not without a trick or two up his sleeve, though, utilising the many technologies available to him to keep Keen at bay for long enough to find an escape.

This is a very sketchy idea with many holes, and it has evolved a lot since its initial concoction. But, there in three nutshells is the answer to your question.

The Universe is Toast : Wrath on Korath III
The Universe is Toast : Fleeting Hope
The Universe is Toast : Mono en Mono

>Commander Spleen

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Edited by: CommanderSpleen at: 2/14/04 4:32 am
KeenRush 
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(2/14/04 8:58 am)
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Re: What's in a Name? The Universe's Toes.
Very nice ideas there Spleen.. Hope we could see those one day..

"For years they studied, collected, catalogued. When they had learned all that they could, they began to modify." 3001: The final Odyssey

Ilsoap
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(2/15/04 5:28 am)
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Oh ho ho!
That would be the most interesting Keen question I've heard in quite a while.

What would I name the next 3 Keens? Of course it would depend on the content of the games. But no two Keen games take place in the same location, so we can probably assume that will continue to be true. Also, seeing as the game would be made in at least 2004, it's very doubtful that the game would be a sidescroller... more like a 3D game. That said, here's my ideas:

Episode 7 - Terra Firma Terror

For months, Billy has been monitoring the progress of the Euglena, a savage race of blob monsters that have been taking over solar systems throughout the galaxy. Now, the Euglena have arrived at Earth! Battle the Euglena as they attack five different remote locations on Earth - the Sahara, the North Pole, the South Pacific, the Serengeti, and the Amazon rain forest - trying to set up a base here.

(The first episodes of the trilogies both involve collecting some number of items - four ship parts, eight Gnosticene Ancients. Here, you battle in five different locations.)

Episode 8 - Blob Ships

Having crippled the attempts to conquer the Earth, Keen moves onto the Euglena fleet, disabling ship after ship. Battle the Euglena, along with several of the creatures that the Euglena have captured who are working with them, including the Schnozz, the Nortoks, and the Yelectric Yeel.

(Again, episodes two and five have similar plots to them.)

I'm not entirely sure what Episode 9 would be, but it would have to somehow fit Mortimer McMire in there. Of course he's behind it all, but how?

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KeenRush 
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(2/15/04 7:46 am)
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Re: Oh ho ho!
Nice ideas Ilsoap!
Hmmm, I would assume that the final part of trilogy would take place on some planet where the Euglena fleet is from. Somehow there Mortimer is controlling them.. But how? Mind? :eek

"For years they studied, collected, catalogued. When they had learned all that they could, they began to modify." 3001: The final Odyssey

XkyRauh2001
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(2/16/04 3:56 am)
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re: Mortimer
Mort should totally pull a Maniac Mansion 2: Day of the Tentacle and use a Time Machine to get an entire ARMY of himselves... :-)

Honestly and truly, though, we've never really SEEN Mort. Only an android duplicate of him. Suspense...

If I had to toss my hat in the ring, this'd be the time:

Episode Seven: Gateway to Ambition (the discovery of Mort's latest treachery)

Episode Eight: Revenge of the Betrayed (new race somehow involved in the Goodbye Galaxy storyline is upset about the way things went--the crucial turning point in Keen's ability to catch up with Mortimer (I'm convinced he's not gonna be able to do it alone... Mort's just fooled him too many times.))

Episode Nine: Showdown at Supernova (self explanatory)
or
Episode Nine: Aww Nuts! (It's sorta Keen's catchphrase, isnt' it?) (could be even cornier if somehow the badguys resembled cashews or almonds... *shot*)


--Xky

Edited by: XkyRauh2001 at: 2/16/04 4:04 am
KeenRush 
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(2/16/04 5:58 am)
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Re: re: Mortimer
Great titles Xky! ^_^

"For years they studied, collected, catalogued. When they had learned all that they could, they began to modify." 3001: The final Odyssey

Ilsoap
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(2/16/04 6:26 pm)
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Re: re: Mortimer
Well, no, we've never seen Mort, but we can assume that Mortimer looks like his android duplicate, because it was enough to fool Keen into thinking it was him. Of course, he was kinda concerned with fighting for his life at the time.

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rorie1983
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(2/16/04 10:40 pm)
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Re: What would you name Keens 7-9 in the TUIT trilogy?
interesting topic

anyway i've said this heaps of time & everyone knows that tom won't do the TUIT trilogy unless he gets the rights which will never happen

don't expect the commander keen the universe is toast trilogy cos it will never happen unless a fan does it & gets his or her's ass sued by id software for no reason cos id don't want anything to do with keen

Robo Blue
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(2/16/04 11:53 pm)
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Re: What would you name Keens 7-9 in the TUIT trilogy?
Don't be such a downer. ID may not have anything to do with Keen, but I'm sure they wouldn't start suing fans for making games (as long as there's no selling involved).

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rorie1983
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(2/17/04 12:04 am)
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Re: What would you name Keens 7-9 in the TUIT trilogy?
you right sorry james

btw: about the dos vault i know you said you couldn't be an admin anymore but would you have time to be a moderater since i am looking for 3 keeners who want to be mods

already have commander spleen who says he will give it a shot. if anyone is interested post here

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(2/20/04 6:52 am)
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Re: What would you name Keens 7-9 in the TUIT trilogy?
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Episode Nine: Aww Nuts! (It's sorta Keen's catchphrase, isnt' it?) (could be even cornier if somehow the badguys resembled cashews or almonds... *shot*)


LOL! :lol . Very clever!

Yeah Keengamer (:p ), I know TUIT will (probably) never be made, but I thought it would be fun to make a topic in which we can speculate some plots and titles! I mean, I have made a text file with a fake tv guide which I update at least once a week! :crazy Pretending that a group of little people are watching those shows!

It's almost like playing god isn't it?! :D
And yes... I'm bored... very bored... Call me berzerk but I personally find it fun. Like a simulation game. If I knew how to make text adventure games, I would make a SimTV game! :D

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thenewmoonsidianX
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(2/20/04 6:51 pm)
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Keen 7-9
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Mort should totally pull a Maniac Mansion 2: Day of the Tentacle and use a Time Machine to get an entire ARMY of himselves... :-)

That would be the bomb. I'm a big fan of MM2: DOTT.
:mortlol :mortlol :mortlol :mortlol :mortlol :mortlol :mortlol
:mortlol :mortlol :mortlol :mortlol :mortlol :mortlol :mortlol
:mortlol :mortlol :mortlol :mortlol :mortlol :mortlol :mortlol

Okay, if I made UIT (which I did www.freewebs.com/lucaskeen ), here're the subtitles...

Episode 7: When Bloogs Attack!
Bloogs invade Earth for revenge of Keen 6 and Keen must go around everywhere to stop them.

Episode 8: Stranded on Itchbay
(Pardon the unintentional pig-latin) Mortimer shoots down Keen's ship to an insane planet, so Mort can have time to build his big machine. Keen must escape the insane planet.

Episode 9: Return of Mr. 315
Keen goes to places like Vorticon VI, Gnosticus IV, and new planets to stop Mortimer from blowing up the universe...

I was just wondering...what if we got to play Mortimer instead of Keen in the third series, and the object would be to blow up the universe! :mort

KeenRush 
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(2/20/04 7:45 pm)
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Re: Keen 7-9
^ Heh, that would be interesting twist in a Keen game - like the parts change, and to finish the series you actually need to do what you have tried to stop! :mortlol
Dr. Villain is making a fan game where you play as Mort, it looks quite interesting..

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Re: Keen 7-9
^ I dunno, moonsidian's version of TUIT revolves all around the older keen games. But it would be grand to play all 7 keen games in full 3d! (I'm fantasising about keen dreams in 3d right now for some reason)

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(2/21/04 11:23 am)
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Re: Keen 7-9
Here are some funny:

The frellowship of the Keen (or Molly or Bloogs or else)
Commander Keen: The Two Guard Posts
The Return of the Keen (or Bloogs)
The revenge of the Bips
Attack of the Bloogs
The Bloogled clones
Keen Reloaded
Keen Revolutions

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thenewmoonsidianX
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(2/21/04 4:29 pm)
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Lord of the Keen?
LOL!

Lord of the Keen

I can see it now..........sort of.......

By the way, has anybody played my UIT series? It's probably the only one you'll see that got finished. You can't download 'em at the moment because Freewebs froze my site. :deadkeen

/\ Yes Unfleexable, the original Keens in 3D would totally rock. Keen4 has already been claimed by DSL and duke4e, but that doesn't stop me from doing other episodes... :evil

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Re: Lord of the Keen?
hey, if you can make a 3d keen game; go for it man! :)

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LevelLord00
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(2/22/04 7:27 am)
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Re: Lord of the Keen?
Suggestions:

7.) The Universe is Toast: Gathering Darkness

8.) The Universe is Toast: The War Begins

9.) The Universe is Toast: One Final Hope

Failed titles:

- Keen Finally Cops it.

- Nothing Much Happened to my Babysitter

- Commander Keen in CGA Madness

- Keens First Lethal Wepon.

Here's an idea; since Id and EPIC were fighting so much back in the day, has anyone considered a game featuring characters from both their games. (A computer game war prehaps?)

thenewmoonsidianX
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Re: Lord of the Keen?
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^ I dunno, moonsidian's version of TUIT revolves all around the older keen games.


Knowing what I know now about Games Factory and programming games and such, I'm wishing I had done my version of UIT differently and with more experience. I should've been more creative... :sick

But supposing I hadn't already done a series based on Tom Hall's concept, here's what I would do now.

Episode 7: Invasion of the Iorgs
Episode 8: Lost on Lanvhiggo VII
Episode 9: The Mayhem of Mortimer McMire

I have no idea what they'd be about. They're just quick names I made it up (notice the illiteration in each episode).

Replying to Unfleexable's message about me doing a 3D Keen game: I may do a 3D Keen game, once I get more experience with 3D Game Studio. I don't want to make the same mistake of trying to do a big game too early, like with my cheap UIT series. Right now, I'm working on a simple "Zork in 3D" game. If I do a 3D Keen (next year at the earliest), it'll definitely be either "Invasion of the Vorticons" or "Keen Dreams." I want to save all the glory of the remaining two Goodbye Galaxy games for DSL and duke4e, if they plan to do those... ;)

Replying to all of the negativity of UIT never being made: It will be made someday. I'm sure of that. :)

rorie1983
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(2/22/04 10:09 pm)
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Re: What would you name Keens 7-9 in the TUIT trilogy?
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Yeah Keengamer


won't can't you call me rorie instead of keengamer
i keep telling you and yet you call me keengamer

please call me by my real name

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(2/22/04 10:49 pm)
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Re: What would you name Keens 7-9 in the TUIT trilogy?
Maybe it's natural after you've been Keengamer for so long. Why do you call random people by their real name (Flaose, Roboblue, etc) when everyone else calls them by their username?

Some people are pragmatists, taking things as they come and making the best of the choices available. Some people are idealists, standing for principle and refusing to compromise. And some people just act on any whim that enters their heads. I pragmatically turn my whims into principles. -- Calvin
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rorie1983
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(2/23/04 12:21 am)
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Re: What would you name Keens 7-9 in the TUIT trilogy?
i don't know why i call people by their real names
you are right xtra, i should be a bit softer on unfleex sorry

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LevelLord00
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(2/24/04 9:45 am)
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Re: What would you name Keens 7-9 in the TUIT trilogy?
SOmeone should contact Keens creator, he's eager to finnish the series but doesn't own the rights. (and with Keen on the GB, he probabbly won't for a long time.:mortlol )

However, if someone were to produce a game engine, I'm sure he'd be happy to build the final three episodes.

thenewmoonsidianX
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(2/24/04 10:07 pm)
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Re: What would you name Keens 7-9 in the TUIT trilogy?
I e-mailed Tom once, and he replied, saying if he ever got the rights (which he will), he'd do it, but he wouldn't prefer anyone else doing it.

I guess the only thing in common with all of our TUIT suppositions is that Episode 7 would have to be in a castle, where you collect 120 of something, and the first level would be a zoo, right? :evil

KeenRush 
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(2/25/04 2:55 pm)
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Re: What would you name Keens 7-9 in the TUIT trilogy?
First of all, interesting Keen episode names here.
And good luck with the new 3D Keen game, in case you sometime start to work on it.

I have e-mailed Tom sometimes (it's kinda awesome, "talk" to the mastermind behind your favourite stuff), and he has said the same; he would finish it if he got the rights.

"However, if someone were to produce a game engine, I'm sure he'd be happy to build the final three episodes."
Levellord, I'm sure he wouldn't do that, at least if he has no rights. And if he would have the rights, MonkeyStone would do their own engine and so on.. And remember, he is busy and so on, he probably wouldn't make a Keen fan game on his spare time.. (Too bad, of course!)

Yeah, zoo would be there somewhere. And probably awesome place.
But that "Episode 7 would have to be in a castle, where you collect 120 of something" I haven't heard, or at least can't remember, could someone tell more about it? Collect something? -- Commander Keen notices that his B-w-B Megarocket is missing 120 pieces, GET THEM BACK BEFORE EARTH EXPLODES!! ;)

Oh, and I kinda would like to see Keen Dreams in 3D also. Though, probably couldn't play it on my comp, but when visiting relatives....

"For years they studied, collected, catalogued. When they had learned all that they could, they began to modify." 3001: The final Odyssey

thenewmoonsidianX
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(2/25/04 6:36 pm)
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Re: What would you name Keens 7-9 in the TUIT trilogy?
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Yeah, zoo would be there somewhere. And probably awesome place.
But that "Episode 7 would have to be in a castle, where you collect 120 of something" I haven't heard, or at least can't remember, could someone tell more about it? Collect something? -- Commander Keen notices that his B-w-B Megarocket is missing 120 pieces, GET THEM BACK BEFORE EARTH EXPLODES!!


I was merely referring to the fact that Super Mario 64 was exactly what Tom Hall planned. :rolleyes And yes, it is very cool to talk to him. I've e-mailed twice... :drool

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Oh, and I kinda would like to see Keen Dreams in 3D also. Though, probably couldn't play it on my comp, but when visiting relatives....


The more I think about it, the more I'm tickled to do a 3D Keen Dreams. Look for it late 2004 or early 2005.

Joe Capricorn
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Re: What would you name Keens 7-9 in the TUIT trilogy?
7: The Universe is Toast!
8: The Universe is kinda Toast!
9: The Universe might not be toast!

A lesson in Ascillan:

In the Dawn of a new age
"Hu beikacho-yon xa beidhakyo-yut."

In an eternal quest for world peace.
"Hu ebe'et sayboo'lin-yut yyk choo'i-yon."

Will you be my friend?
"Chi choo'zilli xa ut kle?"

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Re: What would you name Keens 7-9 in the TUIT trilogy?
Those titles were quite creative Joe! :D

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i should be a bit softer on unfleex sorry


Oh, Stop being such a sap Rorie! :)

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