Ah hell... here it is. Isis.

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eK Isonian Posts: 945 (2/4/03 2:13 am) 143.109.91.236 Reply \| Edit \| Del All	Ah hell... here it is. Isis. Bah, I got tired of waiting... and sitting on Isis. So here's another demo, enjoy. Commander Keen in "The Mystery of Isis II"! This is part of what we have, and this is where we were at 6 months ago... Pisses me off... Charles hasn't said a thing to me in a LONG time.
Scizor CT Vortininja Posts: 258 (2/4/03 2:27 am) 65.82.172.2 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: Ah hell... here it is. Isis. I'll investigate it when I can, which won't be for a while due to the joys of projects. My Remixes: Here! Click here!
eK Isonian Posts: 946 (2/4/03 2:30 am) 143.109.91.236 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: Ah hell... here it is. Isis. Ha... looks like the graphics for the elevator are wrong. If I could use the editor in XP, I'd fix it... but since I can't... There's also a red robot stuck in the ground. Of the two in the level, at least one is walking freely. 4 enemies in all -- I think 3 or 4 weapons? There are some powerups that won't make sense. Like the batteries (glow blue) and the grey balls (they remove powerups that you grab) You can look it all up in the menu anyway, no need to explain it here. --- Also, this level has very few enemies because it was going to be the secret level... which means there's tons of hidden areas, and I'd love to see if people can find them all. I think it'd be neat if someone finds the god mode powerups. (Even though the god mode attack is super screwy) Edited by: eK at: 2/4/03 2:34:24 am
Grelphy Grunt Posts: 8 (2/4/03 3:02 am) 12.23.198.254 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: Ah hell... here it is. Isis. Neat graphics! I like it. You and all those other mental wimps deserve to die! -Mortimer Mcmire in Commander Keen 3
Forge315 Grand Intellect Posts: 1252 (2/4/03 5:23 am) 68.106.137.215 Reply \| Edit \| Del	. Very nice, have to do school now, but looking forward to playing however much of it there is.
eK Isonian Posts: 947 (2/4/03 5:55 am) 143.109.91.236 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: . What I'd like to do is get the source and a programmer who's willing to help, and just finish adding the features we want. Then, when it's done, I want to start the Isis Project. Where fans can make levels with their own graphics, and use any enemy in Isis or the original game. Wouldn't that be awesome? Having access to every enemy, every weapon, and the ability to make your own tiles plus use the graphics from the original games? If any programmer can help us out, that would be GREAT.
UppyII Vortininja Posts: 212 (2/4/03 6:31 am) 206.63.170.59 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: . /me looks around for the 'thumbs up' thingy, but, alas, it is not.
Djaser Vorticon Elite Posts: 844 (2/4/03 2:04 pm) 212.92.76.33 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: Ah hell... here it is. Isis. Djaser smells the Keen fangame of the year election . It's better than I hoped. The worst thing is the level editing at the begin. -----Djaser est un nation prétendue neutre mais, dans la réalité, il ne l'est pas car il n'arrête pas d'être envahie par les uns et sauvés par les autres. Djaser est normalement régie par une féodalité...-----
eK Isonian Posts: 948 (2/4/03 2:29 pm) 143.109.91.236 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: Ah hell... here it is. Isis. What's wrong with the beginning of the level? You start out going up a mountain... What's odd about that?
Djaser Vorticon Elite Posts: 847 (2/4/03 2:50 pm) 212.92.76.33 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: Ah hell... here it is. Isis. Calm down eK, I just try to tell that I have some mixxed feelling abot the level editing. I don't say it is worse, however. BTW I just finished the demo and it is really good. -----Djaser est un nation prétendue neutre mais, dans la réalité, il ne l'est pas car il n'arrête pas d'être envahie par les uns et sauvés par les autres. Djaser est normalement régie par une féodalité...-----
cybernetic dream Vortininja Posts: 82 (2/4/03 3:29 pm) 62.194.152.134 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: Ah hell... here it is. Isis. wow!! it's very cool!
John Vortininja Posts: 165 (2/4/03 4:14 pm) 204.251.243.58 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: Isis *Quote:* Original post by eK Then, when it's done, I want to start the Isis Project. Where fans can make levels with their own graphics, and use any enemy in Isis or the original game. Wouldn't that be awesome? Having access to every enemy, every weapon, and the ability to make your own tiles plus use the graphics from the original games? If any programmer can help us out, that would be GREAT. Oohh...I'm being irresistibly drawn... ...arrg... (gasp) ...oh what the heck. Tell you what: when I've done the first release of CKLO, and if Isis is done at that point, I'll help you out. Talk about the challenge of a lifetime, though...
KeenCommander Vorticon Elite Posts: 565 (2/4/03 4:21 pm) 66.19.124.49 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: Ah hell... here it is. Isis. Yes! ISIS Manhattan Project! So the Real thing will be out after christmas, but this year, huh? But seriously, It looks really good. The final release will have Impossible Pogo, right?
KeenRush Garg Posts: 2156 (2/4/03 6:09 pm) 212.246.17.130 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: Ah hell... here it is. Isis. Downloading it now.. Tell comments later.. Bet it's really cool.. Greetings from Bloogton Tower!
KeenRush Garg Posts: 2162 (2/4/03 6:52 pm) 212.246.17.130 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: Ah hell... here it is. Isis. Woah! Great demo! Greetings from Bloogton Tower!
UppyII Vortininja Posts: 213 (2/4/03 8:14 pm) 206.63.170.41 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: Ah hell... here it is. Isis. The mountains are cool. As are the clouds.
Ilsoap Flect Posts: 566 (2/4/03 9:06 pm) 24.67.253.204 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: Ah hell... here it is. Isis. Great enemies, too. The air sucking guy and blue guy that sticks its head out of the wall are especially unique. I'd improve the cloud part at the very end, because there's quite a few blind jumps you have to make there... but a great game. (Good secrets, too).
eK Isonian Posts: 949 (2/4/03 9:18 pm) 143.109.91.236 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: Ah hell... here it is. Isis. Glad you guys liked it... I plan on releasing more levels tonight, which you can load by going to 'load custom level'... No comments about pacfish? Ilsoap, yah, I hadn't gotten around to getting the cloud part quite right. There's only one more level close enough to being done to be released, another map of mine. Hmmm... maybe I'll release the editor, anyone interested in that?
TheOmegamatic Vortininja Posts: 176 (2/4/03 9:45 pm) 193.77.107.165 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: Ah hell... here it is. Isis. Very nice grafics and level. I hope you will be releasing more levels. The editor? I'm interested
Xtraverse Stranded Fish Posts: 1314 (2/4/03 10:12 pm) 24.48.163.42 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: Ah hell... here it is. Isis. That is incredibly awesome (so is the pacfish).. A few constructive criticisms: I dislike how you can move slightly left or right while retaining the standing animation--basically I don't like how theirs a delay in switching from standing to walking. I think your enemy collision lets get hurt even if you don't quite touch a monster. Also, there are a lot of clipping bugs in that level, you can easily get inside the mountain by exploiting a ledgegrabbing bug (where you're walking in front of tiles that you're not supposed to be in. Also, I've found random tiles here and there to be foreground when they shouldn't be. You're ledge grapping is a little choppy, but I dunno how you'd fix that. Also, it's amazing how Keen can hang on ledges that have such a steep incline. Other than that, I love it! The paralaxxing and weather look really nice.
eK Isonian Posts: 950 (2/4/03 10:58 pm) 143.109.91.236 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: Ah hell... here it is. Isis. Umm... keep in mind, this was released with errors in the levels. Being able to grab onto a ledge that you shouldn't, having foreground tiles in strange places, all level issues that we can't address as long as all the mappers are using XP.
DML1001 Grunt Posts: 24 (2/4/03 11:16 pm) 68.1.183.180 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Editor in XP eK - If you can get me the full source, and all the data files, I can repair the editor under XP now. The version byrd sent me over the summer didnt have any of the headers or data files, so I couldn't even compile it. I don't have any where near enough time to work on the game, but I already have a win2k tile editor pre made, that I can adapt to isis in 10 mins given the full source and data files. Good luck with the rest of the project!
eK Isonian Posts: 951 (2/4/03 11:40 pm) 143.109.91.236 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: Editor in XP I haven't heard from Charles in forever. He was supposed to send Snaily and/or I the source... and he never did....
Superadammario64 Vortininja Posts: 90 (2/4/03 11:47 pm) 24.102.41.229 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: Editor in XP Wow this game is wicked. Great job eK!
Xtraverse Stranded Fish Posts: 1323 (2/5/03 1:27 am) 24.48.163.42 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: Editor in XP Umm..does the difficulty level change anything?
eK Isonian Posts: 952 (2/5/03 1:57 am) 143.109.91.236 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: Editor in XP oh yah, haha... I don't think it does yet... hehe.
Keengamer Vortininja Posts: 307 (2/5/03 2:04 am) 203.123.64.150 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: Ah hell... here it is. Isis. that is a very cool fan game eK If The World Had No Commander Keen The Keen Craze Would Have Never Begun Jawa Wars (Rorie's Place On The Web)
ceilick Vortininja Posts: 94 (2/5/03 2:41 am) 207.252.227.7 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: Ah hell... here it is. Isis. can someone e-mail it to me at clavaded@family.net please?
Grelphy Grunt Posts: 26 (2/5/03 3:29 am) 12.23.198.254 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: Ah hell... here it is. Isis. I think you should definitely release the editor... I know! Make a contest, the best user-made level gets included in Isis! Check out my webpage: nweb.pct.edu/homepage/student/BOYWIL61/
eK Isonian Posts: 953 (2/5/03 4:15 am) 143.109.91.236 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: Ah hell... here it is. Isis. The only way that would happen would be if the level fit the story. We have a tightly constructed series of locations that keen visits, with only 1-2 levels per tileset. I doubt anyone would make a level that would fit the game by chance - especially considering I never added the tiles for the second half of the game.
Djaser Vorticon Elite Posts: 858 (2/5/03 3:45 pm) 212.92.76.33 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: Ah hell... here it is. Isis. *Quote:* I plan on releasing more levels tonight, which you can load by going to 'load custom level'... Do you mean that you're going to release Isis by releasing all levels. BTW what is happenend to the level of the previsious Isis demo. And is the level of this Isis demo the real first level. I'm just curious since in most Keen games the first level is near his bean with bacon rocket. And what about a worldmap? -----Djaser est un nation prétendue neutre mais, dans la réalité, il ne l'est pas car il n'arrête pas d'être envahie par les uns et sauvés par les autres. Djaser est normalement régie par une féodalité...-----
John Vortininja Posts: 167 (2/5/03 4:08 pm) 204.251.243.116 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re:. *Quote:* Original post by eK We have a tightly constructed series of locations that keen visits, with only 1-2 levels per tileset. Whew...multiple tilesets! Talk about detail! *Quote:* Original post by Djaser And what about a worldmap? Isis, being modeled from Worminator, doesn't have a world map (unless it's been added but was not part of eK's release). Also I've gathered that the type of tight storyline Isis has discourages a world map.
Snaily Messie Posts: 746 (2/5/03 7:06 pm) 213.65.97.229 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: Re:. *Quote:* Make a contest, the best user-made level gets included in Isis! Has already happened - that's how I got on the team. *Quote:* We have a tightly constructed series of locations that keen visits, with only 1-2 levels per tileset. But OTOH, most levels use multiple tilesets, at least to some extent. *Quote:* Isis, being modeled from Worminator, doesn't have a world map (unless it's been added but was not part of eK's release). Also I've gathered that the type of tight storyline Isis has discourages a world map. Ten points to you, sir. ________ ¨@_
eK Isonian Posts: 954 (2/5/03 8:42 pm) 143.109.91.236 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: Re:. Here are the states of the levels- First level, the one released in the original demo just needs some tile fixes and then it can be rereleased. Because we can't edit our levels, this discourages me releasing it with it's funky tiles. Second level, Snaily's level. Same problem, but worse. It also doesn't have keen starting in the right spot. Third level - Snaily's second level. Far from completion, you won't be seeing this for sure unless the XP bug is fixed. Fourth level - Underground base, my very first level... works great, but not quite finished. This is the only one I'd release in it's current state (soon). Secret Level - as I said, the level included in this release was our secret level. I hated to release it... but it's the closest to being done out of all our maps. Base - about as far along as Snaily's map, this one wouldn't have even made it into the full release we were planning. It follows the 4th map. Those are all our levels. I'm only willing to release the fourth level, sorry. No world map, because, as you suggested, the level structure fits too tightly together. Keen starts out in jungle, crosses some mountains, goes into desert, etc... The first two levels are jungle, then there's mountain/cave levels, then desert. The map I'm going to release is a desert + base map. And yes, we have TONS of tiles.
Snaily Messie Posts: 747 (2/5/03 9:45 pm) 213.65.97.229 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: Re:. I, too, would like you to hold on to my levels, eK. I'd rather not see them released in their current state... ________ ¨@_
TCL999 Vortininja Posts: 205 (2/6/03 12:08 am) 63.188.17.132 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: Re:. Downloading the game on my 56k modem now... I'm looking foward to it :P Good luck with the rest of the project too, eK. You'll need it to finish a project of this size no doubt. An A through Z interpretation of Commander Keen: The Keencyclopedia
eK Isonian Posts: 955 (2/6/03 2:39 pm) 143.109.91.236 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Ah heck, here you go... another level! Commander Keen in "The Abandoned Base!"! You will come to a pole that you can't finish climbing -- that's really close to the end of the level, and your not missing anything spectacular by not being able to climb it. Consider the level beaten by that point. All that's above the pole is a key that lets you get to the exit in the caved in base. The big big robot guys aren't working right yet. They're supposed to be able to blind you, instead they magically alter the flow of time (Charles was having problems with them)... They're still neat though. Note: To play this level go to Load Custom Levels and select map01.map from the list. Edited by: eK at: 2/6/03 2:43:04 pm
KeenRush Garg Posts: 2185 (2/6/03 5:37 pm) 212.246.17.130 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: Ah heck, here you go... another level! Neat level! Those stairs were really cool! Greetings from Bloogton Tower!
Forge315 Grand Intellect Posts: 1256 (2/7/03 12:31 am) 68.106.137.215 Reply \| Edit \| Del	. Ooh! Another level
eK Isonian Posts: 957 (2/7/03 1:43 am) 143.109.91.236 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: . btw, that purple gun thing that sits on the floor and teleports away if you get close to it wasn't going to be in the final game because it really REALLY sucks. It was one of my first attempts at making an enemy, before I improved.
Xtraverse Stranded Fish Posts: 1330 (2/7/03 2:43 am) 24.48.163.42 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: . Both those big robots constantly fall through the floor.
Grelphy Vortininja Posts: 39 (2/7/03 3:30 am) 12.23.198.254 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: . I couldn't get through either of them. Of course, without health, I wouldn't even get as far... Check out my webpage: nweb.pct.edu/homepage/student/BOYWIL61/
adurdin Wormouth Posts: 687 (2/7/03 11:45 pm) 144.137.23.190 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: . eK said: *Quote:* What I'd like to do is get the source and a programmer who's willing to help, and just finish adding the features we want. I don't have a huge amount of time, but I could definitely make some to help get Isis to a finished state. Email me privately if you want to discuss details.
grafix5000 Grunt Posts: 28 (2/9/03 9:13 am) 62.30.77.15 Reply \| Edit \| Del	YAYZERS!!! Ah. Great game, great times. ------------------------------------------------------------ Life is just a distraction from Commander Keen. Everyone knows that... ------------------------------------------------------------
eK Isonian Posts: 959 (2/10/03 3:08 am) 143.109.91.236 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: YAYZERS!!! Everyone find all the secrets?
KeenRush Garg Posts: 2219 (2/10/03 4:47 am) 212.246.17.130 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: YAYZERS!!! I haven't! Greetings from Bloogton Tower!
Snaily Messie Posts: 749 (2/10/03 10:11 am) 213.65.97.229 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: YAYZERS!!! When you get to see my levels, I can assure that you won't. ________ ¨@_
therealdopefish Vortininja Posts: 314 (2/10/03 12:47 pm) 62.251.83.73 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: Looking good. Indeed sometimes a bit glitchy. I already fell through a platform in the first level. The options says there's music, but I don't hear anything. May I please use those enemies(well some of them) as a trophy for my trophy collection option in RKP3? After all, why shouldn't there be trophies from Isis 2 in it if there are already trophies from Commander Keen 2000 and Spork in it?
eK Isonian Posts: 960 (2/10/03 2:17 pm) 143.109.91.236 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: Re: There's music... I just don't put it in my levels until I'm done. Too much of the same song over and over when testing a level = madness. Oh, and go ahead. Though most of the best enemies are either A) not in those levels or B) not animated and in yet. If I were to pick my favs, I'd pick that yellow guy and the red robot. But if I could choose from the other set of enemies, I'd definately choose Big Purple and Hairy (aka Gruhg) and the floppy guy that's gonna be in the second half. Edited by: eK at: 2/10/03 2:19:39 pm
therealdopefish Vorticon Elite Posts: 315 (2/10/03 3:18 pm) 62.251.83.73 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Thank's Thank's I could use it. Yes, of course I know there are more enemies in the game. After all you want to hide the best from us until the game is finished. Only problem would be the name of the trophy. I don't know the names of those enemies. Don't say them yet, that would spoil it for me(and others). I'll just make a trophy 'Isis 2 monsters' trophy or something like that. I know what you mean by adding the music as last object. I always add the music first in my levels and indeed it sounds tedious if you test those levels over and over, especially if you use a short music-file like 'Eat at joe' or 'To the future'(yes, I'm not a musician, so I can't be bothered to make them myself).
BlueIllusionX Vortininja Posts: 191 (2/10/03 3:23 pm) 209.82.28.37 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: Thank's heh thats a pretty crazy game you got going there. Man, how did you guys make those graphics. it just makes me wounder in awe how you did it!
pleitorian Vortininja Posts: 59 (2/11/03 5:46 am) 209.6.136.89 Reply \| Edit \| Del	so, dude, what'd I miss? Oh yeah, and I haven't had ICQ since last summer in case anyone has been trying to reach me ...
Snaily Messie Posts: 750 (2/11/03 7:53 pm) 213.65.97.229 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: so, dude, what'd I miss? Wow. pLeit. ________ ¨@_
Forge315 Grand Intellect Posts: 1263 (2/12/03 12:57 am) 68.106.137.215 Reply \| Edit \| Del	. Pretty sure I found everything for the secret level, who else has found the God mode power up? Keen turns yellow and shoots beems of light, which don't seem screwy to me ... whatever. So far I've only given a glance at the second level, don't have the time for much of anything right now. Keen on Isis!
eK Isonian Posts: 961 (2/12/03 2:50 pm) 143.109.91.236 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: . wow, I didn't think anyone would find it...
KeenRush Garg Posts: 2247 (2/12/03 3:27 pm) 212.246.17.130 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: . Wow! I haven't seen that.. Where is it? Greetings from Bloogton Tower!
Xtraverse Stranded Fish Posts: 1369 (2/12/03 4:28 pm) 64.30.37.14 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: . Don't tell us, we want to find it ourselves.
Snaily Messie Posts: 751 (2/12/03 5:48 pm) 213.65.97.229 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: . Wow, I remember one of the first betas of Isis when I was new to the community - one of the two levels included had this HUGE secret area that everyone was either boasting about how they had found or begging for the others to tell them the path to... I tried to dig up the thread from the JMMB, but the Keen Council page with the archive has unfortunately gone AWAL. ________ ¨@_
eK Isonian Posts: 962 (2/12/03 8:49 pm) 143.109.91.236 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: . I remember that... I think there was also a secret that you couldn't get to that people wanted to get to...
5hfifty Grunt Posts: 8 (2/13/03 6:12 am) 203.217.11.26 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: . I just played this then, and I thought it was excellent! The level design was fine, and interesting too. Nice work. Visit Nukum! A site dedicated to the Duke that started it all!
LordOfGlobox Meep Posts: 2 (2/14/03 1:13 am) 209.81.165.248 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Hmmm... So is the Isis project starting up again?
KeenRush Garg Posts: 2272 (2/14/03 4:58 am) 212.246.17.130 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: Hmmm... I think it has been under the work all the time.. Greetings from Bloogton Tower!
eK Isonian Posts: 963 (2/14/03 3:53 pm) 143.109.91.236 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: Hmmm... Huh?
LordOfGlobox Grunt Posts: 10 (2/15/03 6:29 pm) 209.81.166.85 Reply \| Edit \| Del	????????? I thought you quit on it after your big compliant how your team no longer is helping.
Snaily Messie Posts: 752 (2/16/03 11:10 am) 213.65.97.229 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: ????????? Big complaint? Not helping? What? ________ ¨@_
RoboRed Shikadi Security Guard Posts: 369 (2/16/03 2:21 pm) 63.224.172.144 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: ????????? This is a good demo...a very good demo.....I just can't wait until the HC-32 and the Plutezarp are available. Over and out.
pleitorian Vortininja Posts: 60 (2/22/03 1:37 am) 209.6.136.9 Reply \| Edit \| Del	curiously What did you end up doing with the jungle, eK (what was, ages ago, L1) ?
The Soggy Mop Vorticon Elite Posts: 373 (2/25/03 4:25 am) 64.63.208.27 Reply \| Edit \| Del	gerbils (I hate subjects in replies) Well... I never thought I'd see the day! Congratulations on a job well done, Isis team!
Nospike88 Nospikian Elite Posts: 331 (2/25/03 8:35 am) 210.84.253.201 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: gerbils (I hate subjects in replies) Nice to see you two again These blue fellows walk around until they find something to charge at. But even charging, their favorite pastime, will bore them after a bit. Watch out for their fearsome horn!
Djaser Vorticon Elite Posts: 965 (2/25/03 2:33 pm) 212.92.76.33 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: gerbils (I hate subjects in replies) Yes, good to see you back . -----Djaser est un nation prétendue neutre mais, dans la réalité, il ne l'est pas car il n'arrête pas d'être envahie par les uns et sauvés par les autres. Djaser est normalement régie par une féodalité...-----
eK Isonian Posts: 968 (2/26/03 2:39 pm) 143.109.91.236 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: gerbils (I hate subjects in replies) pLeit, I already explained that, go read everything what I've said in this thread.
LordOfGlobox Grunt Posts: 18 (2/27/03 12:59 am) 216.214.14.198 Reply \| Edit \| Del	RE:GERBILS or something like that... Welcome back however you are, sorry before my time...
Ilsoap Flect Posts: 586 (2/27/03 5:41 am) 24.67.253.204 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: RE:GERBILS or something like that... The mini Pacman game was a good touch, too. Very much in the same style as PaddleWar.
adurdin Wormouth Posts: 694 (2/27/03 6:51 am) 144.137.30.208 Reply \| Edit \| Del	PacFish I agree, PacFish was excellent in every way! [Could I perhaps be a little biased? Hmm]
S3 Grunt Posts: 7 (2/27/03 6:53 am) 203.109.254.59 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: PacFish quite a good game u got there, tho it's a bit short, and RKP2 is a lot better
therealdopefish Vorticon Elite Posts: 328 (2/27/03 10:04 am) 62.251.83.73 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: PacFish Come on, even the creator of RKP2(that's me) thinks that Isis 2 is better than RKP2. And don't compare RKP3 with Isis 2. They're both entirely different games and nobody knows everything about both games(I only know the things I see in the Isis 2 Demo). I personally think Isis 2 is still better than RKP3 if Isis 2 is finally released.
Scizor CT Vorticon Elite Posts: 322 (2/27/03 8:46 pm) 67.34.170.199 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: PacFish My only problem with Pacfish is that the power up dots last far too long. My Remixes: Here! Click here!
Grelphy Vortininja Posts: 93 (2/27/03 8:48 pm) 12.23.198.254 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: PacFish Yeah... Check out my webpage: nweb.pct.edu/homepage/student/BOYWIL61/
S3 Grunt Posts: 15 (2/28/03 4:21 am) 203.109.254.59 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: PacFish whoa, i thought it would be IMPOSSIBLE for someone to like a game more than the creator of the game does, but u've proved me wrong dope... unless someone who hacked ur username posted that
KeenRush Garg Posts: 2436 (2/28/03 4:09 pm) 212.246.17.130 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: PacFish Agree, PacFish's great! Greetings from Bloogton Tower!
therealdopefish Vorticon Elite Posts: 332 (2/28/03 5:06 pm) 62.251.83.73 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: PacFish Well, I have become a little bit smarter on that. It reminds me of the old days when I and eK were fighting who makes the best Keen game. But now I'm a bit smarter than that. And I don't want RKP3 to compare with Isis 2 as they're 2 entirely different games. Isis 2 is more exploring and RKP3 is more avoiding obstacles(old perfect-timing platform action). Not to mention that I did do everything in my own and Isis 2 is made by a team. I'm not supernatural you know. Edited by: therealdopefish at: 2/28/03 5:07:29 pm
Djaser Vorticon Elite Posts: 980 (2/28/03 5:27 pm) 212.92.76.33 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: PacFish I've read some of those topics, that was soooooo childish . -----Djaser est un nation prétendue neutre mais, dans la réalité, il ne l'est pas car il n'arrête pas d'être envahie par les uns et sauvés par les autres. Djaser est normalement régie par une féodalité...-----
eK Isonian Posts: 969 (3/1/03 6:35 am) 143.109.91.236 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: PacFish whatever. I stand by my "childish" views that RKP isn't exceptional in any way. I applaud the effort put into it, and it IS better than a significant portion of the fan games out there, but it doesn't grab my attention in any way. I don't see how that's childish, but then, people throw childish and immature around all the time without knowing what it means.
S3 Vortininja Posts: 35 (3/1/03 7:06 am) 203.109.254.59 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: PacFish u better not be insulting RKP2(or the original) in any way, if u wanna say that u think Isis2 is better, that's fine, do it all u like, but i will kill ur cat if u say anything negative about rkp2(except u think some games are better... they might be, but aren't )
MRC Marky Vortininja Posts: 278 (3/1/03 8:34 am) 194.29.197.6 Reply \| Edit \| Del	- *Quote:* u better not be insulting RKP2(or the original) in any way Do you actually get insulted if someone prefers a much newer game over RKP? Well I stand by eK's side. Comparing the gameplay, originality, graphics.. I don't see why you all stand defending it.
dasTOBI AS Grunt Posts: 30 (3/1/03 10:36 am) 62.225.213.110 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: Hmmm... I am going to download it, if I find time for it... what`s about save-function or passwords in Isis? Are they any in this demo version now? I remember the last version I played was really hard... so it could be usefull... Or cheats for example...
Snaily Messie Posts: 760 (3/1/03 11:12 am) 213.65.97.229 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: Hmmm... There will be a save game feature. ________ ¨@_
S3 Vortininja Posts: 39 (3/1/03 7:49 pm) 203.109.254.59 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: Hmmm... and if i remember correctly, unless i got a lucky copy that's different from all the rest, the previous version had a save feature
dasTOBI AS Grunt Posts: 31 (3/1/03 11:25 pm) 62.225.212.93 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: Hmmm... hm, I saw there already is one... the only problem is, if I load a saved game a black screen appears... but if I press Escape and return to the game than, the save game is loaded... (and it saves everywhere in the level, that`s nice) The game is still great... and the pacfish-game was a nice idea!
S3 Vortininja Posts: 55 (3/2/03 12:29 am) 203.109.254.59 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: Hmmm... maybe u should put other games of that sort in... Shikadi Invaders, Keentris, Garg-out...
eK Isonian Posts: 970 (3/2/03 3:22 am) 143.109.91.236 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: Hmmm... Huh... I wonder if that has something to do with the different palettes.
Stardust M Grunt Posts: 19 (3/2/03 7:32 am) 198.81.26.104 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Great Game I like Isis2 Great stuff! PacFish is wonderus not to mention spiffarific! But I dont know about other "classic" game spoofs (keentris ect) They sound fun but there is only one wrist game on the original Keen. but whatever. There is NO "one true way" -The code of Valdemar
eK Isonian Posts: 971 (3/2/03 9:41 am) 143.109.91.236 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: Great Game huh? Keentris? What are you talking about? Isis isn't going to have any more wrist games.
Djaser Vorticon Elite Posts: 991 (3/2/03 12:06 pm) 212.92.76.33 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: Great Game Keentris does already exist. -----Djaser est un nation prétendue neutre mais, dans la réalité, il ne l'est pas car il n'arrête pas d'être envahie par les uns et sauvés par les autres. Djaser est normalement régie par une féodalité...-----
Snaily Messie Posts: 762 (3/2/03 6:34 pm) 213.65.97.229 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: Great Game Yup. Steven made one years ago. ________ ¨@_
Xtraverse Stranded Fish Posts: 1495 (3/3/03 12:40 am) 24.48.163.42 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: Great Game There's nothing "keenish" about it, except CK's face is on every block.
Stardust M Grunt Posts: 20 (3/3/03 6:16 am) 198.81.26.102 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: Great Game I'm Glad Pckfish will be the only wrist game eK. That just makes sense. The fact that Keentris exists is a surprise to me but it sounds very un-keenish. There is NO "one true way" -The code of Valdemar
Snaily Messie Posts: 763 (3/3/03 5:32 pm) 213.65.97.229 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: Great Game And KeenTris was _immensely_ keenish compared to Keen Breakout 1 & 2. ________ ¨@_
Grelphy Vortininja Posts: 113 (3/3/03 9:05 pm) 12.23.198.254 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: Great Game Aparently I pay zero attention to fan games (other than this one) cause I have no idea what anyones talking about... Just found (and exploited, sort of) some of the clipping bugs in the first (secret) level. The swimming is great... No dopefish? In the second level, at the bottom level of the base, befor the big flashy guys, there's a ledge that is forground that shouldnt be. Look around and you'll find it. Advice? Take your tileset and make all the "secret" tile lighter or otherwise different from your solid tiles. It make editing much easier... You and all those other mental wimps deserve to die! -Mortimer Mcmire in Commander Keen 3
eK Isonian Posts: 974 (3/4/03 6:36 am) 143.109.91.236 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: Great Game Um, we don't have problems knowing where our secret areas are. You've never used the Isis/Worminator editor... have you?
Grelphy Vortininja Posts: 123 (3/4/03 8:18 pm) 12.23.198.254 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: Great Game No. If you'd release it, I would... Does it include a "clipping" layer? That'd be good design... I was thinking for TED5. Some of my levels have really messed up secret areas, and theres a secret level in the original that really doesn't work. You and all those other mental wimps deserve to die! -Mortimer Mcmire in Commander Keen 3
Snaily Messie Posts: 765 (3/5/03 7:38 am) 213.65.97.229 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: Great Game Worminator (and thus Isis II) is built around four layers. Foreground, background, graphical properties and info (what you would call clipping). FG and BG share the same tile set, so secret areas are not made with a special tile but simply by putting the tiles in the foreground. ________ ¨@_
John Vortininja Posts: 172 (3/5/03 6:31 pm) 204.251.244.53 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: Great Game ...and making them "blank", or any info property that isn't solid John, a.k.a. Twilight Dragon joeubank@hotmail.com jworld.g2gm.com
Snaily Messie Posts: 767 (3/6/03 4:32 pm) 213.65.97.229 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: Great Game ...right. ________ ¨@_
cybernetic dream Vortininja Posts: 96 (3/6/03 8:17 pm) 62.194.152.134 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: Ah hell... here it is. Isis. best. keen. game. ever.. very cool game!
Grelphy Vortininja Posts: 133 (3/7/03 12:38 am) 12.23.198.254 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: Ah hell... here it is. Isis. Yeah, that also works. Invisible secret levels while editing levels... I love the "solarizer"... Good touch having it kill you if you get too close. You probably know this, but there's no weapons near the start of the base... Dodging bad guys is annoying. There's some clipping errors in the destroyed section of the base. Did you mean to put in the "patchwork quilt" sections? They're neat... I can climb the pole all the way up. This isn't an error, but it's worth mentioning. I'm presuming there's debug/cheat codes. Don't tell them to me. I had some strange sprite errors with the doors in the base. Keen came out above the ground, and looked weird... What does the teal/grey guy do? He doesn't hurt you... I've had problems with insufficient health and too many "phaser(?)" shots. That's all I can think up now... I could edit the levels on not XP. If you think... You and all those other mental wimps deserve to die! -Mortimer Mcmire in Commander Keen 3
Snaily Messie Posts: 768 (3/7/03 3:47 pm) 213.65.97.229 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: Ah hell... here it is. Isis. *Quote:* I could edit the levels on not XP. If you think... Come again? ________ ¨@_
0 UNFLEEXABLE 0 Vortininja Posts: 221 (3/9/03 12:03 am) 202.7.209.122 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: Ah hell... here it is. Isis. I know it has been a couple of months since the release of that second isis demo. That game rocks! I sniff another Keen Award for isis soon.
ceilick Vortininja Posts: 117 (3/9/03 8:38 pm) 207.252.227.7 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: Ah hell... here it is. Isis. Did anybody besides EK do enemy graphics on this game? There really good.
eK Isonian Posts: 985 (3/11/03 8:46 am) 143.109.91.236 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: Ah hell... here it is. Isis. Marky (aka AEWorld) did some of the enemies. He did the basic green amphibian guy and the grey robot. Corey, who's other aliases I don't remember, made the fire breathing demon guy.
Xtraverse Stranded Fish Posts: 1570 (3/11/03 12:34 pm) 64.30.37.14 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: Ah hell... here it is. Isis. Slasher, Matrix, bigbuff chicken, and probably some others I'm not thinking of.
Grelphy Vortininja Posts: 159 (3/18/03 9:08 pm) 12.23.198.254 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: Ah hell... here it is. Isis. bump Heres something I think might be relevent: an earlier Isis demo. isis.zip (956KB) In case anybody wanted to see the earlier versions... =) You and all those other mental wimps deserve to die! -Mortimer Mcmire in Commander Keen 3
eK Isonian Posts: 992 (3/20/03 5:13 am) 66.73.128.223 Reply \| Edit \| Del	eh I already have that... and earlier ones, if people want them. I may be able to dig them up.
Snaily Messie Posts: 782 (3/20/03 2:20 pm) 213.65.97.229 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: eh I have 10 different builds on my machine... ________ ¨@_
KeenRush Garg Posts: 2691 (3/20/03 4:48 pm) 212.246.17.130 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: eh I would like to see the first release ever! In case it isn't that thing Grelphy linked.. Because I have played that a long time ago.. Greetings from Bloogton Tower!
Grelphy Vortininja Posts: 164 (3/20/03 8:11 pm) 12.23.198.254 Reply \| Edit \| Del	yah Yeah, I know, I got it off some of eK's webspace. In case it disapears, it's now on mine, which will probably dissapear sooner... =P Did anyone notice that edge hanging is not in that early Isis?
Flaose Pooper, King of the Slugs Posts: 817 (3/20/03 10:09 pm) 68.147.124.200 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: yah It seems to me that edge hanging was only implemented in the latest public release. -------------------- Cerebral Cortex 314 - For All of your Commander Keen Needs.
Grelphy Vortininja Posts: 167 (3/21/03 1:02 am) 12.23.198.254 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: yah Maybe the next one will have impossible pogo... I keep on non-impossible pogoing into spike pits. Ouch! You and all those other mental wimps deserve to die! -Mortimer Mcmire in Commander Keen 3
John Vortininja Posts: 177 (3/21/03 5:31 pm) 164.47.220.88 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: yah *Quote:* Original post by Flaose It seems to me that edge hanging was only implemented in the latest public release. Yeah, and that's one thing that's not-so-good about this release. Have you noticed how Keen "slides" down while in ledge-hanging position, if you're a ways above the ledge? John, a.k.a. Twilight Dragon joeubank@hotmail.com jworld.g2gm.com
0 UNFLEEXABLE 0 Vortininja Posts: 292 (3/21/03 9:56 pm) 202.7.209.122 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: yah who cares? it's just a demo. I wonder if the full version will EVER be released? This is sorta like... Isis Forever (Duke Forever)
josath Meep Posts: 1 (4/3/03 1:24 am) 169.229.74.125 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Question about Isis - portability & programming You may have mentioned this in a previous thread, but i didn't see it. What exactly are you using to write Isis with? Are you using a portable game library like Allegro or SDL? because if you are, I would like to know if you are interested in help porting to Linux/other platforms. (This is not entirely altruistic, i must admit, the only way for me to really play this game would be if it ran in linux. Or in real-mode dos. dosbox is a way cool program.) I can also help with other programming if you need it. I have always been a fan of keen, but not till recently did i realize there was such a community, and many fan-made mods and games. In case anyone is curious, here are some things I have programmed: A game I wrote a couple years ago is here: wizards Some programs i've written for the Sharp Zaurus (a sweet linux-based handheld) are here: beetlegame and here: spaz
Snaily Messie Posts: 795 (4/3/03 2:24 pm) 213.65.97.229 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: Question about Isis - portability & programming AFAIK, it was originally compiled in DJGPP with Allegro. It's still in Allegro, but I'm not sure what it is compiled with... ________ ¨@_
revolutionbr Grunt Posts: 4 (4/21/03 4:11 pm) 200.163.25.127 Reply \| Edit \| Del	editor? so, where can i get the editor?
John Vortininja Posts: 186 (4/21/03 9:37 pm) 164.47.220.32 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: editor? WEeeelll....since there are a few people who've been posting who have identified themselves as the creators... Do I have to spell it out? ...hope not John, a.k.a. Twilight Dragon joeubank@hotmail.com jworld.g2gm.com
pacdan729 Grunt Posts: 9 (4/26/03 2:53 am) 66.9.106.146 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: Ah hell... here it is. Isis. Isis 2 is just so awesome. It's almost as good as Keen 4, which is my favorite original Keen game.
eK Isonian Posts: 1159 (4/26/03 5:41 am) 143.109.91.236 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Re: Ah hell... here it is. Isis. Thanks As soon as I get off my lazy butt and release the level editor, there should be more interest in it... I hope.
Ckmaster Grunt Posts: 31 (4/27/03 11:15 am) 195.92.67.66 Reply \| Edit \| Del	Gr8 job! Right then my views: i really like what you have accomplished and believe the game has GREAT potential! i gotta say that isis graphx and game play are just as good as any of the ID titles, ilove how you have made wehther and atmospheric effects! the enemies are few and to far between but u already said y that is... and the game blends perfectly with the story! i like the cpu wrist update!i couldnt hear much of the music mind. like the enemies and all the other plush graphx! cant wait for the editor! how did you make the game? i forget how ! oh and pacfish rocks! more of it! but i don think paddle war should be completely removed, perhaps update it with powerups or sumin!? well those are my views: KeenMaster PS: Great JOB!

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