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paradox
Grunt
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(12/3/02 4:24:51 am)
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Which fan games have good graphics?
Hi

I was thinking about the problem of how to get graphics for the keen engine I am working on. ( opax.swin.edu.au/~paradox/ ) Creating all my own graphics at this stage is impossible, because ... well there is only one of me :-) I also dont want to use the graphics I currently have, which are just ripped out of the original keen games for copyright reasons.

So I was wondering if any of the existing keen games has sprites I could use for the time being (With full credit given of course) Can anybody give any recomendations as to which fan games have good graphics? Does anybody have any sprites/Graphics that I could use?

- Luke

Slasher 
Vortininja
Posts: 104
(12/3/02 4:35:03 am)
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So...
Like, do you want sprites for your entire game or just for test runs? If it's just for test runs and not the final product, I see no problem with using ripped Keen sprites. If you're looking for sprites the final game then you'll probably want to hook up with a tile artist and talk about the level design/enemies at length as opposed to just asking for a general set of sprites.

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paradox
Grunt
Posts: 7
(12/3/02 4:52:03 am)
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A little from collum A, a little from collum B :-)
Basically just test runs at the moment, however I want to use my engine as part of a portfolio for applying for some java coding jobs, so I dont think using ripped graphics will go down to well :-)

- Luke

KeenCommander
Vorticon Elite
Posts: 456
(12/3/02 3:30:51 pm)
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Re: A little from collum A, a little from collum B :-)
From what I've seen, the best sprites/tiles in Commander Keen fangame are in ISIS Demo. I'm not sure where to download it, and you'd have to get permission from the ISIS team...

Snaily
Messie
Posts: 674
(12/4/02 4:32:32 pm)
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Re: A little from collum A, a little from collum B :-)
IIRC, there was an Isis sprite sheet publically released (at least to the members of VTI), but they were still based on the sprites from the original...

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Djaser
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Posts: 476
(12/4/02 4:50:37 pm)
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Re: A little from collum A, a little from collum B :-)
The sprites of Isis were very good and the sprites of the two Spork III demo's.

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Djaser est normalement régie par une féodalité...-----

paradox
Grunt
Posts: 8
(12/5/02 12:23:49 am)
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ISIS demo
Hi

I got the isis demo, it is very nice. However it looks like the keen sprite is just a redone version of the original keen sprite. Would this be enough to get around the copyright issues?

Also does anybody know where I can find the spork III demos? I had a brif look around, but I couldnt find them. I'll keep looking.

- Luke

Killspy
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(12/5/02 2:55:30 am)
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Re: ISIS demo
I like the Isis graphics...

Slasher 
Vortininja
Posts: 107
(12/5/02 3:04:08 am)
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I believe I can be of assistance
I was the fella that made the Spork games. I'll give you both sheets, as incomplete as they are:



And the earlier ones:

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XkyRauh2001 
Mortimer's Right Hand Man
Posts: 456
(12/5/02 7:27:12 am)
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hmm...
my mod got knocked pretty hard for the bland-ness of my level tiles :-) so i shouldn't really say anything... but in my opinion, it's all about capturing your personal style. i have a distinct style in which i like Keen to be seen--as is evidenced in my mod, and others have their own interpretations (like TMST, Ilsoap, etc) the most important thing is that you create something that YOU are proud of... everyone else liking it is just a fringe benefit ;-)

--Xky

Snaily
Messie
Posts: 677
(12/5/02 9:12:03 am)
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Re: hmm...
I still adore your Keen drawings (or personal style, if you want), Xky.

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Djaser
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Posts: 482
(12/5/02 5:06:26 pm)
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Re: hmm...
Me too, Xky ;) ....

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Djaser est normalement régie par une féodalité...-----

TCL999 
Vortininja
Posts: 166
(12/5/02 7:35:21 pm)
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Re: hmm...
Paradox:

If you want the Spork III demos go to my site:

www.commanderkeen.net/keencyclopedia/keenware.html

An A through Z interpretation of Commander Keen: The Keencyclopedia

paradox
Grunt
Posts: 9
(12/6/02 2:16:23 am)
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Thanks!
Wow, thanks slasher! I think I will try and use the earlier ones, because they include sprites for climing poles. Before I use them I will have to add in animations for pogoing, and griping onto ledges. Do you want to me send you any extra sprites I make?

Thanks!
- Luke

ceilick
Vortininja
Posts: 36
(12/6/02 3:37:04 am)
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Re: Which fan games have good graphics?
Ive made new enemy sprites that I could e-mail to you if you want them. Id post them but I dont know how.

paradox
Grunt
Posts: 10
(12/6/02 4:01:50 am)
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cool
Hey, that would be great! can you e-mail them to paradox@swin.edu.au

- Luke

Xtraverse
Stranded Fish
Posts: 784
(12/6/02 8:17:27 pm)
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Re: cool
Hey, can I see them?

they're probably too big, so send them to mnewhouse@adelphia.net

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KeenRush 
Garg
Posts: 1495
(12/6/02 8:48:50 pm)
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Re: cool
Wow, Slasher, these sprites by you look very cool:

The universe is not toast!

Slasher 
Vortininja
Posts: 108
(12/6/02 10:23:50 pm)
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Yeah...
Spork III woulda been a cool game had I the integrity to finish it.

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Xtraverse
Stranded Fish
Posts: 787
(12/7/02 12:50:00 am)
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Re: Yeah...
His standing animation looks like he's going to fall over.

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