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Yowza
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(6/11/03 7:37 am)
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That's no door!
Note: I don't know if anyone has posted this before, but I've never seen it, so whatever.

While testing a level I'd made for CK4, I noticed something strange.. For some reason, there seemed to be an area that acted as a door, although I hadn't put one there. I couldn't figure out why this was happening for a while, until I noticed that it happened everywhere that a certain tile was - $03D4 (plain black tile.. Used in underground tunnel areas). I went back to the original CK4, and sure enough, it happens there too. The only place I've found you can do it so far is in the secret area in Border Village.. Jump onto the platform (which leads to the 7 lives), and press up immediately. Keen will walk as if there were a door there, and the level will end (as doors that aren't linked to anywhere end the level.. won't bother explaining why). I'd never noticed this before, mainly because everywhere above those tunnels was tiled in a black soil tile, which slowly faded to black.. and you can't enter a door while jumping, that platform is the only place I could find that you could do it. (There are probably areas in other levels, I haven't looked).

The only way around this that I could find is to replace the $03D4 tiles with blank tiles, and put $00AA on the background layer instead.

Edited by: Yowza at: 6/11/03 7:45 am
XkyRauh2001 
Mortimer's Right Hand Man
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(6/11/03 11:24 am)
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wow
nice find--and very well documented, too! should prove useful to other mappers. thanks for the info, and good luck with your Keen4 levels :-)

--Xky

KeenRush 
Garg
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(6/11/03 2:16 pm)
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Hmmm! I knew that thing in that place of 7 lives, but now it makes sense!
Really good find!

BB - CK - MR. 314

KeenCommander
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Posts: 664
(6/12/03 5:05 am)
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cool thing is: in Keen 5 that special door tile (which is foreground) happens to be transparent meaning: you can make keen walk into a solid wall :-D

I forget what tile number it is...

The Phantom Blob
Grunt
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(6/12/03 12:09 pm)
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Wow... wait a-- editing keen4 levels?? How do you do that??

Xtraverse 
Stranded Fish
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(6/12/03 1:13 pm)
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TED5.



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0 UNFLEEXABLE 0 
Vorticon Elite
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(6/13/03 10:55 am)
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oh damn! :furious

i didnt read this yet and i posted the same bugs in another topic. (keen 4 bug report) >:

but ive explained a little bit more. well, nice find anyway. ;)

-- Pinch, Pinch... BLIND, Clamp! --

The Candyjunk
Grunt
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(6/13/03 3:20 pm)
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.......if a door infotile says go to $0000 it will be the top edge of the level. if you touch the first or the second row tiles of a levels edge, the level ends.....

todays my birthday! :D
:birthday

Djaser 
Holy Monk Yorp
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(6/13/03 4:30 pm)
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Am I invited Mark? :)
:birthday
How about a birthday secrets in you keen levels?

-----Djaser est un nation prétendue neutre mais, dans la réalité, il ne l'est pas car il n'arrête pas d'être envahie par les uns et sauvés par les autres.
Djaser est normalement régie par une féodalité...-----

Edited by: Djaser  at: 6/13/03 5:45 pm
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Vorticon Elite
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(6/13/03 5:16 pm)
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happy birthday Mark!
(its nice to know real names of keeners!)

my names Burak by the way.

EDIT : :birthday why do i always forget this icon :b

-- Pinch, Pinch... BLIND, Clamp! --

Edited by: 0 UNFLEEXABLE 0  at: 6/13/03 5:38 pm
KeenRush 
Garg
Posts: 3426
(6/13/03 5:36 pm)
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Happy birthday to you! :birthday

BB - CK - MR. 314

Nospike88
Nospikian Elite
Posts: 31
(6/14/03 10:01 am)
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Yay! Happy birthday!

:birthday

How old did you turn?

Yowza
Vortininja
Posts: 42
(6/14/03 10:32 pm)
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cool thing is: in Keen 5 that special door tile (which is foreground) happens to be transparent meaning: you can make keen walk into a solid wall :-D

I forget what tile number it is...


There's at least one (probably more) tile like that in CK4 too.. $06E9. It's used for doors like the ones in the slug houses, where there are door outline tiles, and then background tiles inbetween for the actual door (Usually the big backgrounds.. eg Forest, Dunes etc). $06E9 is placed in the masked layer on top of these background tiles, so that the door actually acts as a door.

Great tile for hidden areas :)

Robo Blue
Meep
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(6/22/03 11:00 pm)
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there's another place you can do that trick in Keen 4. I discovered it a while ago, but forgot about it til now. Its in the pyramid of Gnostice Ancients on the platform below where you get the red gem. Turn god mode on, and walk off the right edge into the tar. Hold up while doing this.

THE ALLMIGHTY ROBO BLUE HAS SPOKEN!:wormouth :rollin
:D These keen emoticons are sweet! They never had anything like this on the old Keen messageboards!

Edited by: Robo Blue at: 6/22/03 11:03 pm
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Vorticon Elite
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(6/23/03 1:49 pm)
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oh yeah, i tried that a while ago, when you had said gnostiene ancient, that came to mind and i was gonna post about the tar door until u posted it :furious

:o

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