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KeenRush 
Garg
Posts: 2754
(3/23/03 11:27 am)
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Secret of the Oracle?
Does the secret in that name mean that information that the Oracle (it's that machine) tells in the end of Keen 4?
I can't understand why the name is Secret of the Oracle, though it's good name..
Or maybe it means the information that Oracle has, will be secret, until the Gnosticine Ancients, who are captured to the Shadowlands, are there and use it to tell the info, what would be normally be secret, because there are no way to hear/see it. 
And, does anyone remember where was the info about some hex-editing that can effect to Keen 4's random generator or something? I couldn't find it anywhere!
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Xtraverse 
Stranded Fish
Posts: 1772
(3/23/03 4:06 pm)
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Re: Secret of the Oracle?
adurdin mentioned a while back that he found the random number tables or something, and if you hexed them you could get effects like berkeloids constantly throwing fire and slugs constantly relieving themselves, and other stuff like that.
Secret of the Oracle I think means the information that Keen gets at the end of the game.
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KeenRush
Garg
Posts: 2758
(3/24/03 4:42 am)
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Re: Secret of the Oracle?
That I remember Xtra, but if I remember correct he also posted how to do that!
Well, I think that too..
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Xtraverse
Stranded Fish
Posts: 1782
(3/24/03 4:46 am)
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Re: Secret of the Oracle?
If he did I never saw that post.
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KeenRush
Garg
Posts: 2760
(3/24/03 4:48 am)
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Re: Secret of the Oracle?
I think so.. Why the search must be so 0? 
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adurdin
Wormouth
Posts: 712
(3/24/03 7:48 am)
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Re: Secret of the Oracle?
Maybe because posts older than 15th December 2001 are no longer on the board?
Anyway, I found the .exe, and uploaded it: durdin.net/andy/keen/unrandom.zip
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Andrew
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KeenRush
Garg
Posts: 2766
(3/24/03 4:28 pm)
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Re: Secret of the Oracle?
2001?  Is it that much already? Well, time flies when you're having fun..
Thanks Andrew!
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Xtraverse
Stranded Fish
Posts: 1787
(3/24/03 4:45 pm)
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Re: Secret of the Oracle?
Do you have any examples of in CK 1-3?
And does anything change besides the berkeloid and the slug?
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KeenRush
Garg
Posts: 2775
(3/24/03 6:18 pm)
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Re: Secret of the Oracle?
Gnosticine Ancients, skypests..
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adurdin
Wormouth
Posts: 713
(3/26/03 6:44 am)
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Re: Secret of the Oracle?
Arachnuts become pretty dangerous...
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KeenRush
Garg
Posts: 2815
(3/26/03 6:46 am)
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Re: Secret of the Oracle?
Hmmm.. That I haven't noticed.
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thenewmoonsidianX
Vortininja
Posts: 149
(4/2/03 10:48 pm)
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CK4 and SMI?
Maybe it's just making fun of Secret of Monkey Island...
Secret of the Oracle
Secret of Monkey Island
See a similarity?
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KeenRush
Garg
Posts: 2928
(4/3/03 3:36 am)
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Re: CK4 and SMI?
Maybe.. But was the game out before Keen 4?
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Flaose
Pooper, King of the Slugs
Posts: 882
(4/3/03 11:40 pm)
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Re: CK4 and SMI?
Yes...just a year or two before.
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Flaose
Pooper, King of the Slugs
Posts: 883
(4/3/03 11:42 pm)
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Re: Secret of the Oracle?
Where did the title 'Meets the Meats' come from anyways?
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Xtraverse
Stranded Fish
Posts: 1902
(4/4/03 12:00 am)
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Re: Secret of the Oracle?
Another crazy idea from the producers, it only is revealed at the end of the registered version of Keen Dreams.
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KeenRush
Garg
Posts: 2956
(4/4/03 3:46 pm)
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Re: Secret of the Oracle?
Could someone post a screenshot?
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Zorath
Vortininja
Posts: 138
(4/5/03 7:25 pm)
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Re: Endings in Keen Dreams
I took a look at the ending screens in the registered version of Keen Dreams, and I found some differences between it and the shareware version. The differences are marked in red in the table below:
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Yes! Boobus Tuber's hash-brown-
like remains rained down from
the skies as Commander Keen
walked up to the Dream Machine.
He analyzed all the complex
controls and readouts on it, then
pulled down a huge red lever
marked "On/Off Switch." The
machine clanked and rattled,
then went silent. He had freed
all the children from their
vegetable-enforced slavery!
Everything around Keen wobbled
in a disconcerting manner, his
eyelids grew heavy, and he
fell asleep....
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Yes! Boobus Tuber's hash-brown-
like remains rained down from
the skies as Commander Keen
walked up to the Dream Machine.
He analyzed all the complex
controls and readouts on it, then
pulled down a huge red lever
marked "On/Off Switch." The
machine clanked and rattled,
then went silent. He had freed
all the children from their
vegetable-enforced slavery!
Everything around Keen wobbled
in a disconcerting manner, his
eyelids grew heavy, and he
fell asleep....
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Billy woke up, squinting at the
early morning sun shining in his
face throught the bedroom window.
Nothing. No vegetables to be seen.
Was it all just a dream?
Billy's mom entered the room.
"Good morning, dear. I heard some
news on TV that you'd be
interested in," she said, sitting
by him on the bed.
"What news?" Billy asked,
still groggy.
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Billy woke up, looking around the
room, the early morning sun
shining in his face. Nothing.
No vegetables to be seen. Was it
all just a dream?
Billy's mom entered the room.
"Good morning, dear. I heard some
news on TV that you'd be
interested in," she said, sitting
by him on the bed.
"What news?" Billy asked,
still groggy.
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"The President declared today
National 'I Hate Broccoli' Day.
He said kids are allowed to pick
one vegetable today, and they
don't have to eat it."
"Aw, mom, I'm not afraid of any
stupid vegetables," Billy said,
"But if it's okay with you, I'd
rather not have any french fries
for awhile."
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"The President declared today
National 'I Hate Broccoli' Day.
He said kids are allowed to pick
one vegetable today, and they
don't have to eat it."
"Aw, mom, I'm not afraid of any
stupid vegetables," Billy said.
"But if it's okay with you, I'd
rather not have any french fries
for awhile."
THE END
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Okay, honey," Billy's mom said.
"Uh, Mom, what are we having for
supper tonight?" Billy asked.
"Oh, we're having liver, dear."
"I HATE liver! I don't have to
eat liver. I saved the earth!"
THE END
(Possibly continued in...
"Commander Keen Meets the Meats")
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Commander Keen will definitely
return in...
"Goodbye, Galaxy!"
Watch for it!
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The title screens also look different (registered to left, shareware to right).
 
If you want to see screenshots of the ending texts you can download this file: kdendpic.zip
*phew* It took a while to write this message 
Edited by: Zorath at: 4/11/03 8:09:01 pm
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Scizor CT
Council Janitor
Posts: 384
(4/5/03 7:32 pm)
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Re: Endings in Keen Dreams
Interesting.
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KeenRush
Garg
Posts: 3003
(4/6/03 7:21 am)
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Re: Endings in Keen Dreams
I really wonder why the starting screen is so much different between those versions.. I think that the shareware one is much cooler!
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PacManBert
Grunt
Posts: 6
(4/6/03 1:02 pm)
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Shareware / Registered
Are the endtext and the title screen the only differences between the two versions?
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Flaose
Pooper, King of the Slugs
Posts: 903
(4/7/03 9:41 pm)
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Re: Shareware / Registered
Where'd you get that registered Zorath? My id Anthology version appears to be shareware (but it comes with the hints and such...that belong in the registered version).
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Zorath
Vortininja
Posts: 145
(4/8/03 2:33 pm)
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Re: Secret of the Oracle?
Well, I didn't get it the legal way...  I guess you get that version if you buy the game from Softdisk.
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Are the endtext and the title screen the only differences between the two versions?
There may be some other small differences, but nothing big... The levels are at least the same.
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KeenRush
p0stwh0re
Posts: 3030
(4/8/03 5:34 pm)
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Re: Secret of the Oracle?
Those text based starting screens seem to be different..
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PacManBert
Grunt
Posts: 7
(4/11/03 11:50 am)
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Text based starting screens
I just discovered my KDreams was the shareware version ... I didn't know it.
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Zorath
Vortininja
Posts: 146
(4/11/03 4:12 pm)
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Re: Boobus
I just noticed that the potato in the title screen is Boobus Tuber in the registered version but a "potato guard" in the shareware version...
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Djaser 
Holy Monk Yorp
Posts: 1277
(4/11/03 7:50 pm)
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Re: Boobus
Can you post screens?
-----Djaser est un nation prétendue neutre mais, dans la réalité, il ne l'est pas car il n'arrête pas d'être envahie par les uns et sauvés par les autres.
Djaser est normalement régie par une féodalité...----- |
Zorath
Vortininja
Posts: 148
(4/11/03 8:14 pm)
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Re: Boobus
Same images as above:
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Djaser
Holy Monk Yorp
Posts: 1289
(4/12/03 5:18 pm)
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Re: Boobus
They don't work
-----Djaser est un nation prétendue neutre mais, dans la réalité, il ne l'est pas car il n'arrête pas d'être envahie par les uns et sauvés par les autres.
Djaser est normalement régie par une féodalité...----- |
Zorath
Vortininja
Posts: 150
(4/12/03 5:36 pm)
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Re: Boobus
My server seems to have connection problems right now...
<-- My personal image and my signature image doesn't work either. 
Edited by: Zorath at: 4/12/03 5:37:35 pm
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keen dude from mars
Meep
Posts: 3
(4/12/03 9:23 pm)
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re: i nva know wot the subject is
so where is a good website 2 dowload the non-shareware versions of teh games or did all u ppl get them the proper way?
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Xtraverse 
Stranded Fish
Posts: 1987
(4/12/03 10:07 pm)
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Re: re: i nva know wot the subject is
We don't give away the registered versions here--as it is illegal. You still can buy them all legally, but I'm sure it wouldn't be too hard to find them on Google.
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KeenRush
SpamMaster9000
Posts: 3063
(4/13/03 5:20 am)
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Re: re: i nva know wot the subject is
store.yahoo.com/3drealms/games.html
There you can buy a CD that haves Keen 1-5.
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Djaser
Holy Monk Yorp
Posts: 1298
(4/13/03 10:28 am)
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Re: re: i nva know wot the subject is
The Shareware version looks better
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Djaser est normalement régie par une féodalité...----- |
Yowza
Grunt
Posts: 13
(4/15/03 7:30 am)
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Re: re: i nva know wot the subject is
That's exactly what I thought..
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0 UNFLEEXABLE 0 
Vorticon Elite
Posts: 416
(4/15/03 7:35 am)
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Re: re: i nva know wot the subject is
earlier this year illegally downloaded the registered keen dreams. it's no different. except what zorath had said.
and the secret levels that can be accessed only via warp mode, are removed and if you try them, it crashes the game.
i hope this helps.
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PODmaster
Grunt
Posts: 22
(4/15/03 8:12 am)
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Re: re: i nva know wot the subject is
Yeah, the shareware version looks much better. I'd never seen the registered version title screen...
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KeenRush
Poster of the Month!
Posts: 3105
(4/15/03 2:06 pm)
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Re: re: i nva know wot the subject is
I hadn't tested that.. Maybe the "secret" level only was something testing area because of the new engine.
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PODmaster
Grunt
Posts: 29
(4/16/03 10:54 am)
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Keen dreams secret levels?
I don't remember Keen Dreams having secret levels....
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Xtraverse
Stranded Fish
Posts: 2020
(4/16/03 11:25 am)
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Re: Keen dreams secret levels?
You can only warp to them, and they're just tiny levels with some points and that's it.
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0 UNFLEEXABLE 0
Vorticon Elite
Posts: 449
(4/17/03 5:29 am)
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Re: Keen dreams secret levels?
yeah,
its a bunch of lilly pads in the sky while a bunch of points that u get jump to.
and theres some flower powers (singles) on the floor with 2 split exits.
There is no debug mode for KD so you simply press F10-W etc. While in the game, but there isn't sprite mode, secrets mode etc.
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