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Forge315 
Grand Intellect
Posts: 1121
(12/14/02 2:44 am)
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Challenges of Challenges!
Okay it’s not that big of a challenge -- but it will be more than impossible in some cases.
The challenge is to beat as many Keen games as you can, while only using your pogostick. This should be very hard since you’ll have to turn on your pogo once you enter a level, and there’s no weapons. 
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KeenCommander
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Posts: 474
(12/14/02 6:14 am)
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Re: Challenges of Challenges!
phooey! I once completed Keen 6 with pogo, but I DID use Keen's neural stunner (which turned off the pogo for a short bit)... I think I'll try it again--without the gun.
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Forge315
Grand Intellect
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(12/14/02 6:35 am)
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Aren’t you just the weird one,  *already tried it lol*
For Keen6 on hard I doubt it possible, I suggest easy. I’m gonna try Keen1 first.
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KeenRush 
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(12/14/02 10:06 am)
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Good idea!
I try that, but what about those switches in Keen 4 for example, there you have to stop pogoing and switch them!
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Forge315
Grand Intellect
Posts: 1132
(12/14/02 1:40 pm)
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Well sometimes I guess you have to, like in Keen1 you have to play the first level without a pogo and to exit every level.
Anyway I’ve completed Keen1 like this, Yah! But that last level was a killer!
In other news of Keenness, I completed the secret level of Keen6 without collecting any points. Only a few levels left and I’ll have them all! AH—Hahaha! 
I completed the last level of Keen6 in about 10 seconds, (it could have been 15-20, I don’t care) though the game didn’t end when this happened. You done this yet KeenCommander? Just take the first wall in the level up and out.
Also have you seen Keen fall from the ceiling in Keen6 when performing an impossible bullet? I weird little something I found when experimenting, doesn’t always work but it’s happens. Once I test this a bit more I’ll say where and how.
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KeenRush
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(12/14/02 2:01 pm)
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By the way, do you jumped over the vorticon in the last level or shoot that block down?
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Xtraverse
Stranded Fish
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(12/14/02 9:44 pm)
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Edited by: Xtraverse at: 12/14/02 10:47:39 pm
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KeenRush
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(12/14/02 10:28 pm)
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I have jumped over him many times, but never while pogoing.. Can be hard one..
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Nospike88
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(12/15/02 12:17 am)
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I've got a question: Am I able to shoot while in the air, and then re-activate the Pogo before Keen touches the ground (or a platform)?
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Forge315
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(12/15/02 12:51 am)
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I've got a question: Am I able to shoot while in the air, and then re-activate the Pogo before Keen touches the ground (or a platform)?
Challenges are best left specific, so no.
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By the way, do you jumped over the vorticon in the last level or shoot that block down?
Well I wouldn’t have said it was a hard level unless I had pogoed over him, took about 40 minutes; and when I did it, wow what a close one!
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KeenRush
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(12/15/02 8:28 am)
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Ok.. One question left: Is saving and loading game allowed?
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KeenCommander
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(12/15/02 7:02 pm)
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I completed the last level of Keen6 in about 10 seconds, (it could have been 15-20, I don’t care) though the game didn’t end when this happened. You done this yet KeenCommander? Just take the first wall in the level up and out.
I tried it for the first time--did it in 6 seconds, my brother can do it in 3 (he's a pro at Impossible bullet)
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Also have you seen Keen fall from the ceiling in Keen6 when performing an impossible bullet? I weird little something I found when experimenting, doesn’t always work but it’s happens. Once I test this a bit more I’ll say where and how.
I can't be sure, my brother says he's seen it.
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In other news of Keenness, I completed the secret level of Keen6 without collecting any points. Only a few levels left and I’ll have them all! AH—Hahaha!
<brag>James has completed every keen6 level without getting even 1 bullet.  </brag>
Maybe he'll write a walkthrough about it sometime...
Edited by: KeenCommander at: 12/16/02 5:00:51 am
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KeenRush
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(12/15/02 8:03 pm)
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Your bro really is pro. 
Why isn't he using these forums?
[quote]Just take the first wall in the level up and out.[/quote]
What does that mean? Something through the wall going?
And three seconds is a really fast time.
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Xtraverse
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(12/15/02 8:30 pm)
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Jeez..your brother is amazing..too bad I don't have time to try this kind of stuff.
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KeenCommander
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(12/16/02 5:04 am)
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Your bro really is pro.
Why isn't he using these forums?
I've wondered that myself, I guess I can blame it on the fact that he's not quite 13. 3 more days and he'll be 13 though.
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KeenRush
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(12/16/02 5:59 am)
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 He isn't in the Keen circles but he is very popular here already.
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Forge315
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Posts: 1140
(12/17/02 4:54 am)
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<brag>James has completed every keen6 level without getting even 1 bullet. </brag>
Did he do that when he beat the game without collecting any points? It would be really hard then because you only have 5 bullets! And you have to use the impossible bullet maybe 2 times and that only leaves 1 for enemies.
I’ll get to this one once I’m done with all these other challenges. You see I’ve run out of save game slots, and don’t like to have multiple copies of one game.
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Ok.. One question left: Is saving and loading game allowed?
Yes.
There are other issues, like poles, sometimes Keen may need to clime down them. Or shoot a Blooglet for a key. So far I have not been forced to do this due to the advantages of playing on easy, but I may once I reach later levels and run out of spare keys.
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I've got a question: Am I able to shoot while in the air, and then re-activate the Pogo before Keen touches the ground (or a platform)?
Bringing this up again, I use to do this for practice; it’s a real shame to lock up in a tight spot, so keep them fingers loose.
Again in other news, I beat KD collecting only 100pts; this doesn’t count the bonus points you get for winning the game. (100,000 bonus points!)
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KeenRush
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(12/17/02 3:32 pm)
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Wish I would have more time..
Well, I try those on X-Mas vacation..
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Forge315
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(12/17/02 5:06 pm)
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School just ended here, Yeah!
More time to play, or will I have to do all those newsletter related tasks ... hmmmm .... There's ample time for both, thank you, *smile*
Okay, I’ve tested the falling from the ceiling -- while doing the impossible bullet thing, and I’ll tell all of you how to do it now.
Go to an area in Keen6 (I used the last level) where there’s a gun on the ceiling shooting down. Now turn on God Mode, and stand directly under the gun. Jump up when the gun is shooting and land on a bullet of yours. There’s one rule while jumping, when you land the gun above must not be shooting; if it is, this trick wont work! After having a successful landing, just stand there, Keen will be shot out of the gun from above with the next bullet.
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1-I’ve seen Keen come out two ways: one he shoots down riding his bullet, two he falls.
2-Keen can die (he will die!) from being shot out of the gun, so if you want to perform this trick without cheating, find a gun positioned above a doorway. (A doorway gives you temporary invincibility once you walk through it.)
3-I think most people do the impossible bullet by first doing the impossible pogo, this is not correct. It’s much for efficient to jump up slightly and shoot down, that’s all there is to it, “jump and shoot down”. You can get the hang of using just one bullet after a little practice. The point? A doorway doesn’t give you enough invincibility to go around for a whole impossible pogo.
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KeenCommander
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(12/20/02 10:54 pm)
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<brag>James has completed every keen6 level without getting even 1 bullet. </brag>
Actually I meant 1 goody... Sorry about that Forge...
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Xtraverse
Stranded Fish
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(12/27/02 7:10 pm)
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Two seconds on the last level of Keen 6! Ask James to beat that.
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Dr Witherstone
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(12/27/02 11:35 pm)
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Hi,
I'm James, Keencommander's brother. I finished the last level in one and a half seconds. All I did was get it sped up and then get on a bullet, then I re started the level, and keen was on a bullet. Then all I had to do was take a tiny step left, shoot up and look down. In Windows XP, you can minimize the dos box with keen open, and leave it. Then go back to the box a while later and keen will be sped up.
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Nospike88
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(12/27/02 11:44 pm)
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Welcome to the Forum, James .
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KeenRush
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(12/28/02 6:30 am)
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Woah, that's amazing time!
Nice to see you, hope you stay here long time. Welcome!
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Forge315
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(12/30/02 6:08 pm)
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That’s probably as quick as it will ever be, though I have a small idea of how it could be done quicker.
If it ever becomes possible to import a recorded Keen game back into the exe, then as newer faster computers come out you could just play that 1 and ½ second movie and watch it be done quicker.
Great time,
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KeenRush
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(12/30/02 8:53 pm)
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I dunno, but maybe that could be possible with ckPatch tools.
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Xtraverse
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(12/31/02 12:41 am)
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Can't you record a demo?
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KeenCommander
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(12/31/02 5:05 am)
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You can record a demo, but I don't know how to play it back. Is there a way, Andrew?
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adurdin
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(1/4/03 6:00 am)
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There is, but it's not easy. Nor are there any tools for doing it at the moment, to my knowledge.
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